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i want to put up info on the platform regarding intentional community. should it go here or on tmp?  im not clear as to "why the difference", i guess --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 00:41, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)
 
i want to put up info on the platform regarding intentional community. should it go here or on tmp?  im not clear as to "why the difference", i guess --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 00:41, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)
 
::an example is 1) the MW training material i am working with milan on and 2) this community mindmap governance issue. --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 00:43, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)
 
::an example is 1) the MW training material i am working with milan on and 2) this community mindmap governance issue. --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 00:43, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)
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nad: im hoping you have some down time waiting for decaf stuff, please check out http://tmp.peerix.org/Red_Eye and let me know $/clarification. thx --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 00:49, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)

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Implexant

Nad, The company I'm working for would be interested in hiring you to modify your Simply Security plugin to meet our needs. Please contact me. --Implexant 11:53, 11 July 2007 (NZST)

Nad, Still haven't heard from you yet. I did reply to your email with specifications. Let me know! --Implexant 08:10, 14 July 2007 (NZST)
I sent the following message a few days ago,
I plan on adding an #ifgroup parser-function for testing if a user belongs 
to a group at some stage because that requirement keeps cropping up. It's 
only a small job of under an hour, a small donation on our paypal form on 
organicdesign would be much appreciated and would allow me to make it high 
priority.

Chat extension reorganised

They've been doing some reorganizing of extensions on mediawiki and mw:Extension:Chat isn't showing up on the mediawiki Category:Extensions page any more. I have no I why as its in the category. Any ideas? --Firebreather 14:20, 12 July 2007 (NZST)

Ok, totally weird, its back again.

SWF, FreeMind & YouTube on WX

hey, any chance you can embed flash (e.g. google video or youtube content) into the wikia WX ssite? i saw you can do it by moding /includes/Sanitizer.php

     'embed' => array( ’style’, ‘id’, ‘type’, ’src’, ‘width’, ‘height’ )

also may need to add embed to $htmlpairs. thanks --Phalseid 00:39, 19 July 2007 (NZST)

I'm not sure about that setting, but modding includes is a no no, whatever needs doing, it should be able to be done from LocalSettings.php --Nad 09:40, 19 July 2007 (NZST)
sounds good, just would like to be able to embed flash objects again....--Phalseid 06:38, 20 July 2007 (NZST)
could you also add this quasi-extension to allow mindmaps from freemind? I have found it very useful, and would like it on WX and OD to work with sven on the WX business plan. Freemind howto
I've got a lot of stuff I need to get done today but I'll check it out as soon as I can --Nad 09:40, 19 July 2007 (NZST)

Using SimpleForms with DPL

Hi Nad,

I tried to follow your suggestion and created a GUI for DPL using SimpleForms. Have a look at [1]. I noticed some problems when I tried to use a wikitable within the body of a #form to arrange the fields in nicer way. Can you help? The preferred way would be to create a copy of [2] which demonstrates how to do it correctly. Or ist there a known bug which prevents the use of tables? I ran into strange layouts with double quotes at various places.

Second, I observed that the standard edit form of the dpldemo wiki is now cluttered with a row of empty boxes. As this appeared right after the installation of SimpleForms and the moo lib, the reason must come from there. Is there a way to get rid of them again?

Third, I could not get the Ajax calls working. It simply happens nothing althoug the path setting to the lib (I placed it under /dpldemo/javascript) should be set correctly in LocalSettings.php. Is there a debug switch or a simple test?

Thanks, Gero

I've had trouble with tables when trasncluded too, I think maybe you should change the pipes to {{!}} like on mediawiki and wikipedia where Template:! is just a pipe character - or currently html table syntax is required, I don't quite know how to change that currently. I don't have a clue how it might be stuffing up the edit page - maybe its conflicting with another extension...?
The Ajax itself is working fine, I've added the Ajax links example and Ajax form example to my use page on DPL:User:Nad and most of it is working but not quite (example 3 of ajax links doesn't work). I'll definately be keen to help sort this out though because I love DPL and would like SimpleForms to work nicely with it. --Nad 09:32, 27 July 2007 (NZST)
I found a problem this URL should be sending no-cache headers, but isn't. A recent upgrade of the software fixed the problem on my server, but you're running the latest version which includes the nocache code... I'll have to think about why it's not sending them...? --Nad 14:26, 27 July 2007 (NZST)
Thanks for your effort! Ajax is not really the problem because the DPL GUI currently uses a normal forms 'action'. But it was obviously mootools that cluttered the edit dialogue with icons and made loading the editor SLOW, so I disabled Ajax for the moment. Nevertheless (while Ajax was still on) I could find a small bug in the page you had created: It used "/wiki/index.php" instead of "/dpldemo/index.php".
What would be helpful is (a) checkboxes, (b) radiobuttons and (c) being able to use tables for formatting...
I will be on holiday for two weeks now, so there is no hurry.
Algorithmix 21:47, 27 July 2007 (NZST)
You can do checkboxes and all other normal form elements, see SimpleForms cheatsheet and tables with html syntax. I'll have a look at the path problem soon. Have a good holiday ;-) --Nad 23:43, 27 July 2007 (NZST)

Livelets

Aran- seems that wikilets are not working on WX? what is the best way to compare data side by side, do you think? --Phalseid 18:51, 10 August 2007 (NZST)

You mean livelets? I'd forgotten to include mootools which it uses for ajax - fixed now. I don't know why you need those lists to be transcluded live though, just a normal transclude would probably be fine... --Nad 19:47, 10 August 2007 (NZST)
thanks! needed it live because andrew and i might be working on it simultaneously to figure out how to port stuff over to vtiger. about the transclude, im confused about the syntax...it seems to want the ":" after the "{{"...is that normal behavior? not how it works on default MW, as far as i could see... --Phalseid 01:29, 11 August 2007 (NZST)
Livelets are not live, no work has been done on livelets as I've had to focus only on paid work, they are still only working as a secondary request after page load but do not update when content is changed. They use colon because it's a parser function, not a template. --Nad 09:32, 11 August 2007 (NZST)
and why did you/we change to conversations to be at the bottom instead of top...trying to be compliant there too, eh? ;) i think it is worth a news item.... --Phalseid 01:31, 11 August 2007 (NZST)
I started putting talk items at the bottom separated by headings to start conforming to same way as mediawiki/wikipedia, but it doesn't really matter. --Nad 09:32, 11 August 2007 (NZST)

Political wiki project

http://www.wikiexpert.com/Political_wikis --Phalseid 08:49, 12 August 2007 (NZST)

Templates to check out

Check this user page out. He has some nice simple templates similar to ours. --Sven 09:06, 12 September 2007 (NZST)

Next 10 item link

Looking through the offset 10-20 items of the News article, I noticed some funny rendered output in News 10-20. Any ideas what it is? --Sven 14:01, 13 September 2007 (NZST)

Yeah that's the price we pay for removing the expensive regexp query and replacing it with a uses=news. Since some other non-news articles use news they end up in there too. --Nad 14:07, 13 September 2007 (NZST)

SimpleForms Bug

Looks like there is a small bug on line 219 of Extension:SimpleForms.php, $argv['onClick'] .= "f = $('{$this->id}');$template, the $template shouldn't be there. --Sven 11:33, 24 September 2007 (NZST)

Misc

I'll be on 5:30 ferry --Rob 16:41, 26 September 2007 (NZST)

hokitoki see you 'bout 5:40 ;-)

Hosting

aran, just fyi: http://www.wikiexpert.com/Hosting im looking at setting up a commercial level hosting platform here in colorado that will be powered by a new windfarm that is going in a few miles from here. i would love to have your technical input into our discussion. Thanks! --Phalseid 05:17, 27 September 2007 (NZST)

Trees and tranclusion

As trees {{#tree: openlevels=1| {{: A BULLET LIST}} }} are made up of bullet lists, a good idea would to manage the bullet lists themselves in categorized articles then embed the transcluded bullet lists into the any required tree code. This way the lists can be used as bullet lists, or as trees in articles --Sven 12:09, 27 September 2007 (NZST)

We used to use Category:Lists for articles which were pure bullet list content. This is a good organisational idea, but I don't think it should necessarily apply to all trees, just ones where the list may be used for other things. Or maybe just extract and transclude at the time when we want to reuse tree content in list content (or in another tree). --Nad 13:22, 27 September 2007 (NZST)

Organicdesign DNS changover

I'm moving changing the OD nameservers from zoneedit to webdrive so the domain may fail for a while if I haven't done the settings correctly. You can use the following backup URL if this is the case, http://od.peerix.org

Looks like the dns may still need to update:
>host organicdesign.co.nz
organicdesign.co.nz has address 202.89.43.124
organicdesign.co.nz mail is handled by 5 smtp.organicdesign.co.nz.
organicdesign.co.nz mail is handled by 10 smtp2.organicdesign.co.nz.
>host www.organicdesign.co.nz
www.organicdesign.co.nz has address 209.40.202.39

Also just sent an email that bounced. May just need time to propogate. --Rob 14:28, 27 September 2007 (NZST)

No I think it's stuffed and I haven't got the config right after all, because if it was just an update issue, then why would it have changed to thei IP's at all? --Nad 16:23, 27 September 2007 (NZST)
Actually it seems to be only the naked domain that's got the wrong IP, the www and svn both have the correct IP's... Not sure about the mail either... I must have done something slightly wrong in the template. --Nad
I hadn't put the OD IP into the @ subdomain which is character meaning the naked domain! --Nad 16:55, 27 September 2007 (NZST)

tried your full-page hack to geshicodetag extension

hey there. i'm trying to implement your full-page hack to the MW extension GeSHiCodeTag. so far, it renders the entire article syntax highlighted, but unfortunately the wikitext for the category (as square brackets) within the template isn't being expanded. instead, the text [[Category:PHP]] (or whatever language) is being shown where the template is being called in the article. how can i fix this? - Neologix 11:04, 5 October 2007 (NZST)

I'd forgotten that it relies on Extension:CategoryHook.php which allows you to do curly-braces categorisation --Nad 11:37, 5 October 2007 (NZST)

Regexp

I remember you were talking about a regexp extension, but I can't find it by any name i've tired? I'm trying to modify a PAGENAME lie this:

Courses/Compsci101s1c

change to

Compsci101s1c

So in perl I would do

s|(.+/)+||

--Rob 09:53, 12 October 2007 (NZDT)

News and Special:Version --Nad 12:37, 12 October 2007 (NZDT)

Cruise control

Need to check out cruise control sometime as part of build checking and selinium testing --Sven 11:49, 27 October 2007 (NZDT)

requesting help with the export to pdf extension Thanks!

I installed htmldoc (from a binary installer. I'm using Win XP).

when I use the link for exporting a page to a pdf file a pdf file is created but when I try to open it states it's corrupt.

I manage to save html pages to pdf via the GUI of the htmldoc software so the software works.

I think I have a problem pointing your extension to the htmldoc installation.

I added the following lines to my registry:

   [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Easy Software Products]
   [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Easy Software Products\HTMLDOC]
   "data"="C:\Program Files\HTMLDoc"
   "doc"="C:\Program Files\HTMLDoc\doc"

Might you be able to help?

--Gargamel573 13:50, 3 November 2007 (NZDT)

It needs to be placed in the system PATH so that it can execute without full path name. --Nad 15:51, 3 November 2007 (NZDT)
Thanks for the help!
--Gargamel573 23:35, 7 November 2007 (NZDT)
Hi. thanks for the reply. I'm afraid I don't know what is the system PATH, could you please explain where I need to place the HTMLdoc folder? Thanks for your time and help! --Gargamel573 01:59, 4 November 2007 (NZDT)
The point of having a PATH environment variable is so that you don't need to worry about where it's located you just run the program without the preceding path info, put the htmldoc binary in one of the places in your system's PATH variable, or alternatively add your htmldoc's location to the PATH variable. See this for info about PATH. --Nad 10:26, 4 November 2007 (NZDT)

Template:More

Is this useful? the only advantage of it is that we can categorize all the references we make using this template and minimize errors in formatting it. --Sven 09:03, 8 November 2007 (NZDT)

I thought the whole point of a "more" template was to render a certain number of characters of an article and also add the "more..." to the end, not just the "more..." by itself... --Nad 10:49, 8 November 2007 (NZDT)
Have you got any examples? I was just basing it quickly on this example --Sven 11:57, 8 November 2007 (NZDT)
I adjusted Template:More to the way I was talking about and updated 17 August 2007 to use it. --Nad 13:59, 8 November 2007 (NZDT)

Special:PdfPrint error

This is just a note that Special:PdfPrint with no article specified throws an error. I don't think it is one of our extensions though. This is imbuild into MW 1.11.0 now right? --Sven 13:47, 8 November 2007 (NZDT)

It's not imbuilt, it's from MW:Extension:Pdf Export which is not one of ours. --Nad 13:52, 8 November 2007 (NZDT)
Yeah just found it independently :p --Sven 13:53, 8 November 2007 (NZDT)


Errors on Updating template articles with an Ajax form

Hi Nad. Please see

Error with simpleform 20071108.JPG
Thanks Michael I'll look in to that now --Nad 22:10, 8 November 2007 (NZDT)
That should be fixed now (version 0.4.6) - I don't know why it wasn't showing up from my browser?! --Nad 22:21, 8 November 2007 (NZDT)
Hi Nad. The error message have disappeared, but the form is malfunction. --Roc michael 00:28, 9 November 2007 (NZDT)
Can you tell me what it's doing or do another screenshot? It's working properly for me for some reason?! --Nad 00:53, 9 November 2007 (NZDT)
I am Sorry for replying so late. Please see the picture bellow.
Error with simpleform 20071111.JPG
The result of using this page is the same. You can try it after you login ,The site have no e-mail function.
By the way, does this site have no e-mail-notice function? I had set watching this page but there was no E-mail notice to me when you wrote the message above.--Michael 14:36, 11 November 2007 (NZDT)
Yeah that form is a test of functionality which is not quite ready yet and will work much more reliabally in the next version of simple-forms. --Nad 15:28, 11 November 2007 (NZDT)

oi

can u help


Making MediaWiki run much faster

Hi. I have a local installation of mw. I'm having a hard time using it in my workflow because my installation is very very slow.

Might you please be able to point me in the right direction as to how to make mw run a lot faster? Is squid-caching relevant for a local installation? Is there a way to load only the changes or the main content of a page while 'not' loading all the navigation info again and again for each page or reload of the same page?

I've noticed a progress animated gif in the sidebar of OrganicDesign while loading a page, is this connected to the loading time somehow?

I activated the built in caching feature of php, but yet to no avail.

Thanks for your time

Any help or links are greatly appreciated

--Gargamel573 07:01, 13 November 2007 (NZDT)

BTW your reply regarding HTMLDoc helped me out a lot- now I enjoy the pdfbook extension :)

All the caching functionality is all about load-balancing and so will only make a difference if you run a high traffic site. The problem is more likely to be your server, you need a fast CPU preferably Xeon or similar which has a lot of cache memory and you need at least 512M of RAM preferably 1GB or more. --Nad 08:12, 13 November 2007 (NZDT)
The ani-gif in the sidebar is there because the tree loads after the main page has loaded which is useful if you have a lot of content in the tree (my personal tree is over 200K so the page is slow to load if the whole tree has to load as part of the page). You can have content load separately using MW:Extension:Livelets. --Nad 08:17, 13 November 2007 (NZDT)
Thanks!
--Gargamel573 00:31, 15 November 2007 (NZDT)

CSS question

I posted a reply to a question about removing images from External links at MW:Help talk:Links, but I think the solution posted by someone else may not actually work. Can you have a look and see if you agree, I think you can only blanket modify protocols, not urls. --Sven 12:20, 13 November 2007 (NZDT)

I don't actually know if he's right or not - I didn't realise you could do regex in css - you may want to test or research if it's browser specific etc. --Nad 14:32, 13 November 2007 (NZDT)
I will look into it when I get time, it didn't work for me on OS X with Safari or Firefox. I suspect that it is not actually a regex in the expression. --Sven 18:40, 13 November 2007 (NZDT)

Semantic Forms

I am going to update MW:Extension:Semantic Forms, our Special:Version is 0.3.5, and it is now 0.7.6 --Sven 16:15, 16 November 2007 (NZDT)

I have added the code wikia style into the extensions directory

<bash> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Nov 16 16:25 SemanticForms -> SemanticForms-0.3.5/ drwxr-xr-x 7 www-data www-data 4096 Nov 16 16:25 SemanticForms-0.3.5 drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 Nov 16 16:20 SemanticForms-0.7.6 </bash> Ok, it is done, the error seemed to be trusting content from the SVN trunk rather than the tar.gz --Sven 16:41, 16 November 2007 (NZDT)

Category:Examples/Simple Forms

Some of the examples I have run seem to redirect to the news page now. i am not sure when the examples started malfunctioning, see Category:Broken Examples --Sven 23:03, 19 November 2007 (NZDT)

This is not a DPL problem is it? --Sven 23:17, 19 November 2007 (NZDT)

Workflow:Todo

Just added the example, didn't take long, just need to categorise your own work now and you can use dpl to cross query multiple cats... --Sven


Piggyback on the SimpleForms Extension

Hi Nad,

I have coded one extension that as part of the output generates SimpleForms wiki code (see below). But since the simpleForms code is not the one being invoked this code is rendered in the raw form.

I will appreciate it if you can tell me how should I invoke the simpleForms rendering code from inside my extension code to generate the proper wiki output.

Thanks, Omar (omar.marquez@cmegroup.com)

...
        $obr = "{{";
        $cbr = "}}";
                $component=<<<ENDHEADER
 < h 3 >{$this->comp} <small>checklist</small> < / h 3 >
 < table cellpadding=3 cellspacing=0 border=1 >
{$content}
< / table >
{$obr}#form:
{$obr}#input:type=hidden|name=content|id=envContent{$cbr}
{$obr}#input:type=hidden|name=title|value=Talk:{$obr}PAGENAME{$cbr}{$cbr}
{$obr}#input:type=hidden|name=caction|value=append{$cbr}
{$obr}#input:type=hidden|name=env|id=envName|value={$this->env}{$cbr}
{$obr}#input:type=hidden|name=comp|id=compName|value={$this->comp}{$cbr}
Your name: {$obr}#input:type=text|id=cAuth{$cbr}
Action: {$obr}#input: type = select|name = chk|id=chkAction|
* _
{$checks}
{$cbr}
{$obr}#input:type=submit|value=Add Component|update=wgBlogComments|onClick=
var name = document.getElementById('cAuth').value;
if( !name ){ alert('Please enter your name.'); return false;}
var chk = document.getElementById('chkAction').value
if( !chk ){ alert('Please select action.'); return false;}
document.getElementById('envContent').setAttribute('value',
'\n\nDONE##'
+ document.getElementById('compName').value
+'##+ chk +'##' + name + '##' + Date());
{$cbr}
{$cbr}
ENDHEADER;

                return $component;
...
If the SimpleForms extension is present there will be a global singleton called $wgSimpleForms through which you can access it's methods such as formMagic or inputMagic --Nad 15:44, 29 November 2007 (NZDT)
Thanks Nad, that worked. Omar

MW:Manual:Extensions#Installing_an_extension

There is a function called ExtensionFunctions.php in MW:Manual:Extensions#Installing_an_extension which looks similar to the boiler plate templtes we have, not sure if it has anything useful in it --Sven 11:36, 10 December 2007 (NZDT)

OS X meltdown

Yo, Suz's OS X laptop just stuffed up real bad. What happened is that somehow the /etc/hostconfig file got deleted by accident (probably during traversing with finder), so next time it got rebooted (by her today) it spat the dummy and went into single user mode only, no GUI, no nothing.After Igenerated another from scratch it has come right (there was no backup anywhere...). The stupid thing was I had a OS X recovery disk in the machine but it would not boot off it --Sven 23:03, 10 December 2007 (NZDT)

Aw shyit - I bet she's not too happy 'bout you messing round with her lappie after that! you should just hurry up and buy one of your own... --Nad 08:56, 11 December 2007 (NZDT)
She surprisingly cool about it. Mind you she shut it down not me :p, at least I was able to work out the issue and get it going again without an OS reinstall. When will you be able to get an upgrade, plan being to get the same architecture --Sven 09:22, 11 December 2007 (NZDT)
I want to hold out for a tablet, and they're too steep for me at the moment I only want to spend around $1500, so I reckon you should just get one yourself --Nad 09:24, 11 December 2007 (NZDT)

Friday meeting

Yo, change of plan, I will be coming over today... --Sven 08:43, 14 December 2007 (NZDT)

PHP

Manual:Coding_convention has details about the coding conventions on MediaWiki. Also you might want to check out http://www.php.net/oop5.cloning which covers object cloning for the voodoo stuff --Sven 21:52, 18 December 2007 (NZDT)

Object cloning isn't voodoo, the voodoo is making a subclass and then creating a copy of the object which is an instance of the new class. Cloning just makes a copy using the same class. --Nad 08:52, 20 December 2007 (NZDT)
I thought cloning was a formal way of making copies of objects during the voodoo process, maybe I am wrong --Sven 10:40, 21 December 2007 (NZDT)
ACTUALLY voodoo is neither of these. For something to be voodoo you must not know why it works. These cases are Zombie programming, where undead objects are reproduced - with disasterous results. --Rob 18:52, 24 December 2007 (NZDT)
Yeah I know, only Extension:Treeview4.php has real voodoo, but I just grouped all generally "suss" practices into the same cat. --Nad 18:58, 24 December 2007 (NZDT)

Facebook developer wiki

There might be some ideas from facebooks MediaWiki we can use for documentation. My ID account on facebook translates into this wiki user http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/User:525988312 --Sven 21:26, 21 December 2007 (NZDT)

Some general advice

You have already helped me with a small tree view (http://a2d.apapandreou.net) issue but I was hoping you might be able to give me some general tips/advice. I am trying to employ many of the extensions you have developed (and I like the look and feel of OrganicDesign). A key concern I have is to find a good way of having an internal intranet for our NGO as well as pages/spaces for the public. Up to now I have been using LockDown extension to set namespaces that only certain users have rights to. This seems to conflict somehow with the simplesecurity extension. Also the simplesecurity extension does not seem to be namespace oriented (unless there is some way of activating the simplesecurity by namespace). In using treeview I was thinking of having an ifgroup=namespace type of comman that would link to a namespace content page and its table of contents. Any suggestions/tips on how best to deal with the private/public spaces issue for my wiki would be greatly appreciated? Should I use simplesecurity instead of Lockdown? Thanks, --apap

  • We set up a lot of wiki's that are for managing the content for both a public website side and a private wiki organisational side. I made MW:Extension:PublicCat for this which you may find useful.
  • To make conditional content based on namespace, you can use this format: {{#if:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{ns:4}}|it is namespace 4|it is not ns4}}
  • SimpleSecurity is in a very bad state as it has been patch on top of patch since MediaWiki 1.4.x. There's a new version on the way which will handle namespaces and everything and will be the first MW security extension to address all the concerns in MW:Security issues with authorization extensions. Currently you may want to try one of the other extensions which specifically handle per-namespace permissions.
This is helpful. As I am not particularly happy with the other security extensions (I may not understand them adequately) I think I will wait for your new version of simplesecurity (any approximate time frame for release?). In the meantime I will try your conditional content command ({{#if:{{NAMESPACE}}|{{ns:4}}|it is namespace 4|it is not ns4}}) but I am not sure I understand how to use it. --apap
{{NAMESPACE}} resolves to the namespace of the current page (in this case "User talk"). {{ns:some-number}} is the way to specify a namespace by its number so that it is not affected by user language selection, the number you use depends on what namespace your wanting to make the condition for. You can just type the namespace text instead if you like - I'm just used to doing things as generically as possible. --Nad 08:30, 24 December 2007 (NZDT)
Thanks! --apap

Extension:Selenium.php

Making some headway with this now, see Suite generation for an example --Sven 11:52, 26 December 2007 (NZDT)

Excellent - I checked a link to an individual test as well which worked properly,
http://www.organicdesign.co.nz/wiki/index.php/Special:Selenium?suite=Selenium_example&test=Logout
working on adding div tag now, current hurdle is getting the selenium-core environment to access a test suite, I think because the path is also a query string, i.e. a question mark followed by a path e.g. http://flouzo.organicdesign.co.nz/wiki/skins/flouzo/selenium/core/TestRunner.html?test=../../tests/test.html, I need to have url decoding in there since there will be two query strings, and the second one to https://organicdesign.nz/wiki/index.php/Special:Selenium?suite=Selenium_example will be url encoded --Sven 22:10, 26 December 2007 (NZDT)
If I cannot get selenium to connect with the Special:Selenium page because of the query string issue I may have to modify the special page to;

<bash>

  1. Specifying ARTICLE

https://organicdesign.nz/wiki/index.php/Special:Selenium/ARTICLE

  1. Specifying ARTICLE and SECTION

https://organicdesign.nz/wiki/index.php/Special:Selenium/ARTICLE/SECTION </bash>

--Sven 09:40, 27 December 2007 (NZDT)
In the example URL you've shown above you're doing the problem of combining PATH_INFO and QUERY_STRING methods - use a completely standard long-form URL like in the discussion page before saying it doesn't work. --Nad 11:10, 27 December 2007 (NZDT)

Excellent, I don't think I need to do much, I just found that I can specify the full url path (including http:// protocol) and it works e.g. Flouzo query string example --Sven. I take that back, the test is not showing up... 14:35, 27 December 2007 (NZDT)

You're still combining PATH_INFO and QUERY_STRING, you have to get out of those sloppy habits as they can cause unpredictable results in the field, use ?title=Special:Selenium, not index.php/Selenium as you're relying on PATH_INFO processing to correctly reconstruct the QS portion of the URL. --Nad 15:43, 27 December 2007 (NZDT)
My bad, the url generation was from pasting an url in the form. I have got relative paths going on my local wiki here, will add a long url query string. --Sven 16:03, 27 December 2007 (NZDT)
See first selenium example. it seems that the seleniese variables are not remembered between tests e.g. ${username} from one test to another. However I did see you can have manual intervention where a user is expected to enter password details for example --Sven 21:10, 27 December 2007 (NZDT)
You'd be able to use JS within the Seleneise to store variables in the user's session, but I think tests should be self-contained, otherwise their results are dependent on external factors. --Nad 21:17, 27 December 2007 (NZDT)
Yeah I thought that too --Sven 21:28, 27 December 2007 (NZDT)

I have installed the latest version 0.7.2, Special:Selenium is now available --Sven 23:00, 8 January 2008 (NZDT)

This diff uses some tags that improve special page formatting - see Special:Selenium. It doesn't look good on OD, but it does on a monobook skin --Sven 08:58, 10 January 2008 (NZDT)
That's all coming along damn well! what have you got left to do? maybe time to start making some test suites and discuss methods of scheduling and reporting test failures?! --Nad 15:07, 10 January 2008 (NZDT)
There are little issues with the regex of articles, but they can wait, can start making suites and discussing next phase now. It is now on MW:Extension:Selenium --Sven 07:28, 11 January 2008 (NZDT)

Database problems with semantic mediawiki

Nad, I know this is not the place to raise this question but I have a sense you can help me. I have been struggling with a database error relating to semantic mediawiki that I believe is the result of my custom namespaces. The error occurs when I try to go the Special:Type page of mediawiki. I think there is a conflict with one of my custom namespaces that was originally setup for 104. I have tried to remove the custom namespace but the problem persists (I also gather that removing namespaces is problematic). Here is the error that I am getting:

A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

(SELECT 'Types' as type, 104 as namespace, page_title as title, page_title as value, 1 as count FROM `page` WHERE page_namespace = 104 AND page_is_redirect = '0') UNION (SELECT 'Types' as type, 104 as namespace, 'Page' as title, 'Page' as value, 1 as count) UNION (SELECT 'Types' as type, 104 as namespace, 'String' as title, 'String' as value, 1 as count) UNION (SELECT 'Types' as type, 104 as namespace, 'Text' as title, 'Text' as value, 1 as count) UNION (SELECT 'Types' as type, 104 as namespace, 'Boolean' as title, 'Boolean' as value, 1 as count) UNION (SELECT 'Types' as type, 104 as namespace, 'Number' as title, 'Number' as value, 1 as count) UNION (SELECT 'Types' as type, 104 as namespace, 'Geographic_coordinate' as title, 'Geographic_coordinate' as value, 1 as count) UNION (SELECT 'Types' as type, 104 as namespace, 'Temperature' as title, 'Temperature' as value, 1 as count) UNION (SELECT 'Types' as type, 104 as namespace, 'Date' as title, 'Date' as value, 1 as count) UNION (SELECT 'Types' as type, 104 as namespace, 'Email' as title, 'Email' as value, 1 as count) UNION (SELECT 'Types' as type, 104 as namespace, 'URL' as title, 'URL' as value, 1 as count) UNION (SELECT 'Types' as type, 104 as namespace, 'Annotation_URI' as title, 'Annotation_URI' as value, 1 as count) ORDER BY value LIMIT 50

from within function "". MySQL returned error "1267: Illegal mix of collations (utf8_general_ci,IMPLICIT) and (latin1_swedish_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation 'UNION' (internal-db.s295.gridserver.com)".

I have already dealt with the collations problem by setting everythin to utf8 (so I don't understand why that message appears at the end. Any thoughts are welcome. If you prefer I not ask you questions unrelated to your extensions (directly) I will fully appreciate it. Thanks, --Apap

I'm happy to answer any MW questions you have if I know the answers, but in this case the problem is very specific to SMW's internals and so the authors would probably be your best bet. --Nad 09:47, 1 January 2008 (NZDT)

Fractional reserves

See W:Fractional-reserve banking --Sven 08:21, 5 January 2008 (NZDT)

Semantic forms

It seems in this example that clicking the tab edit with forms is not working. Not sure what could be the problem but we should probably upgrade Semantic forms to 0.8.2 --Sven 16:05, 14 January 2008 (NZDT)

Image for http://www.mediawikilite.org

this image could be good for the mediaWikiLite image as it does not have a backdrop --Sven 18:46, 16 January 2008 (NZDT)

EmailArticle problems and suggestions

Suggestions

  • A variable to turn off everything except the textbox for entering e-mail addresses
  • A variable that can contain a canned message that's prepended to the article, such as "This article was sent to you from a user on SiteName." With the word "article" and "SiteName" as links.
  • Define a variable with the URL for the link to Special:EmailArticle for each article that can be used anywhere in the skin -- if this is possible it'd be great. I have a custom 'share' portlet-style box in my skin with links to share on Facebook, etc., and I'd like a link to email the article as well (with my own text).

Problems

  • Separating >1 e-mail address in the textbox with commas or newlines (haven't tested anything else) results in only the first address receiving the message.
  • All addresses entered in the textbox are duplicated in the To: field.
  • Thumbnail img src tags do not have the domain prepended, so all thumbs in the e-mailed article are broken
  • URL generated for toolbox/action links doesn't appear to be escaped. This works okay in Firefox but maybe it's a good idea?
  • Setting $wgEmailArticleGroup to sysop doesn't appear to make action link disappear (toolbox link not tested), and Special:EmailArticle still renders
  • There seems to be a broken or unclosed div somewhere. My skin has another div with a footer below the central content div, and on Special:EmailArticle, this div becomes merged with the special page.

My info

  • MediaWiki: 1.11.1
  • PHP: 5.1.6 (apache2handler)
  • MySQL: 5.0.54-log
  • CentOS 4

Please contact me via e-mail if you can. --GMorehou 23:50, 7 February 2008 (NZDT)

Re: Extension:NukeDPL

Hi Nad; Have a quick question for you. I am desperately trying to install NukeDPL on my server to fight wikispam. DPL is installed and working correctly, however whenever I try to run your script with a DPL statement, I get a helpful message saying "No pages to delete using DPL-query:" which then lists exactly the pages I would like to remove! Its obviously working on some level because the DPL statement is being executed properly.

I really could do with some advice, many hours after trying to get to grips with your script (my PHP knowledge is limited) I am still no further. Thanks in advance. --Luke O'Connell 23:56, 7 February 2008 (NZDT)

What's your version info and is your site public so I can see the problem? --Nad 09:52, 8 February 2008 (NZDT)
I am running 1.1.0/2007-07-12 of NukeDPL and 1.10.1 of MediaWiki. The public site is http://www.theblueroom.us, and the NukeDPL page can be found at http://www.theblueroom.us/Special:NukeDPL. I really need to get this up and running, and would be grateful if you could provide me with contact details; I am willing to pay for a solution on this! My email address is luke.us@gmail.com. --Luke O'Connell 13:12, 3 March 2008 (NZDT)

Caching problem with Simple Forms with Ajax

Hi Nad, I just started experimenting with Simple Forms with input type=ajax and while it works the very first time I use a form the result of this first run seems to be cached and returned again irrespective what I enter into the input boxes (or even if I don't enter any values or even if I make the syntax of the query within the #form invalid). Also the example on Ajax_form_example seems to show this behaviour of returning again and again the very first result. Any idea how to work around the caching? Thanks, Gu 23:18, 12 February 2008 (NZDT)

Yeah it's a known bug, but I haven't had a chance to work on it for a while - I'm doing a rewrite as there are many other problems as well. --Nad 23:50, 12 February 2008 (NZDT)
Although that's not a real solution setting $wgParserCacheType = CACHE_NONE; in LocalSettings.php does make it work as expected. At least for now that's fine for me (I'm using it in my quest to allow users to add specific values via input boxes into SMW #ask queries). Gu 00:59, 13 February 2008 (NZDT)

Oil

Check this out, from Youtube--Sven 08:42, 16 February 2008 (NZDT)

Special:SearchLog

Can you quickly check the permissions of the log file for organic design for me relating to this query. I think the permissions need to change to be writable by the webserver to allow new searches to be collated --Sven 11:29, 19 February 2008 (NZDT)

Mediawiki programming help

Dear Nad, I have been taking a look at your work and you seem to have an impressive handle on mediawiki programming. I am working on a corporate project and we are looking for help with user interface/skinning and mediawiki extensions. We have a project deadline to meet over the next 6 weeks. If you would be interested and available for payable contract work, please contact me at organicdesign@jenandi.com

Kind Regards, Andi

Templates and passing vars

Nad, trying to get the google map extension to work with vars in a template, such that:

{{Test
|FULL_NAME = Ashfield
|FULL_NAME_ND = Ashfield
|LAT = -33.8833333
|LONG = 151.1166667
}}



<googlemap width="400" height="300" zoom="16" type="hybrid" controls="medium">
{{{LON}}},{{{LAT}}}, {{{FULL_NAME}}}
</googlemap>

would work. It appears to be a problem: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2257

and this appears to be somebody's solution?? http://blog.w-nz.com/archives/2005/08/23/using-template-variables-in-extension-tags-with-mediawiki/

what are your 2 cents? --Phalseid 06:39, 3 April 2008 (NZST)

I think installing an extension to generically process all variables in tags is a bit extreme, why not just hack your google maps extension in the tag function, or do an official patch on it which allows it to process the variables, eg

<php>$text = $parser->replaceTemplateVariables($text);</php>

You could make it do it based on a global such as $egGoogleMapsReplaceVariables --Nad 09:09, 3 April 2008 (NZST)

Treeview 5

Yo, Ive just put a suggestion up for this post. I suggest we may need to convert windows backslashes to forward slashes in extensions if this is a continuing problem --Sven 13:05, 3 April 2008 (NZST)

Extension:Treeview5.php

That fix for windows/unix paths was unbelievably obvious, why didn't I think of it... --Sven 14:18, 15 April 2008 (NZST)

Yea, that's what I was meaning about it only being an issue for the regex operating on the backslashes, not with the backslashes themselves. I only just got round to reading the treeview talk page and checking it out. You need four backslashes though because the regex expects it to be doubled so its not treated as escaping the following square bracket, and each of those two need to be escaped themselves since they're inside PHP quotes. --Nad 14:57, 15 April 2008 (NZST)

Simplesecurity glitch?

Aran, on my user page, which I want to start using a bit more again, there is a security setting and I can't figure out where that has been created. "Every action requires the user to be Milan". It was inheriting from cat:Milan/XMLWiki user pages and had security on the user page as well but I removed both settings and it's still locked down. Can you check it out please when you have minute? Cheers --Milan 11:04, 27 April 2008 (NZST)

Not a glitch, its getting it from Milan/Tree which must be transcluded onto the user page. You could remove the security from the tree page or not transclude it - but then I just thought, wrapping it in noinclude's should work I'll do it now and see. --Nad 12:20, 27 April 2008 (NZST)
Thanks, that looks to be working fine. I'm getting a little rusty on transclusion stuff it seems :-/--Milan 14:47, 27 April 2008 (NZST)
The templates an article uses are listed at the bottom of the page when editing --Nad 15:00, 27 April 2008 (NZST)

Collaboration

Hello Nad, I am trying to set up a number of intranets for NGO's that I am involved in and I would like to chat with about potential help/collaboration. Should we email each other or skype? Thanks, --Apap 06:40, 12 May 2008 (NZST)

You can email me on aran at this domain or skype id organicdesign (text only) --Nad 09:31, 12 May 2008 (NZST)

Extension:NewUserMessage

Hi could you please check http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:NewUserMessage. I got a problem with my bot showing up in Recent Changes. Thanks!

Extension:CSS

I noticed your above extension only partially works with MW1.12 after a fresh upgrade. Any idea why, or what could be blocking part of the {{#css}} from printing? As it is, only some of the specified elements are visible, as through templates used on a page, but not the page elements, as if they're being overridden by Common/Monobook.css. If you ever upgrade to 1.12 you might see what I mean. -- Sasoriza 06:41, 1 June 2008 (NZST)

I have it running on 1.12 with no problems. The extension does not prevent other CSS's such as Common.css or Monobook.css from loading, it simply adds another CSS which is loaded before the main ones which means you will have to ensure that your CSS rules are more specific than the existing ones to prevent them being overridden (this is what I mean by "specific"). --nad 08:53, 1 June 2008 (NZST)
Also I've made a few changes to the code to allow files or in-line rules to be included, see MW:Extension:CSS. --nad 09:35, 1 June 2008 (NZST)

User Registration

nad, i have poked around MW and don't see any extensions to extend the fields that are collected on new account creation. any ideas? --Phalseid 10:08, 7 June 2008 (NZST)

I think there are hooks to extend that pretty easily, you need something done? --nad 14:01, 7 June 2008 (NZST)

MediaWiki parser

thought you might be interested in this article - M:Migration to the new preprocessor which provides information about the changes to parser.php --Sven 14:16, 9 June 2008 (NZST)

Wikimedia Toolserver

Check out your edits on wikimedia projects e.g. Nad on 'pedia. We need to check out useful tools and ideas from this, some documentation available here and here. --Sven 11:42, 11 June 2008 (NZST)

Test to see what the edit summary looks like --Sven 12:59, 11 June 2008 (NZST)
Yea I'd really like to tie bots and scraping (like that svn-commits chart or oil-price monitor etc) in to our workflow system so we can define streams of process-driven content similar to the toolserver idea. --nad 16:30, 11 June 2008 (NZST)

Wiki.pl

Yo, Ive successfully added a wikiDelete method, it may need a bit of work around capturing the correct $err message if a user does not have rights to access the page. The restore method is almost there but unfortunately I am working off line mostly this weekend if you see something obvious I am doing wrong. You can specify a specific revision, or all revisions to restore, will get the latest revision restoring first.

I also managed in the process of testing to submit incorrect token content which has stuffed up the local instance of the database when restoring one particular article, so I may have found a mediaWiki bug in 1.12.0 but need to document further. I want to create a test script which can do a pile of test actions so we can loop it through a set of wiki versions to test wiki.pl on. Here is the error message I managed to create;


<mysql>

Database error manually identified when attempting restore Database error A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

   (SQL query hidden)

from within function "Revision::insertOn". MySQL returned error "1062: Duplicate entry '12' for key 2 (localhost)". </mysql>

I think at the time I submitted only two name/value hidden fields my %form = (wpEditToken => $1, target => $title,. Anyway, I want to add a couple of other functions to upload/delete/restore files. The file restoration function may be covered by the generic wikiRestore function.--Sven 10:49, 15 June 2008 (NZST)

That's pretty heinous if you can construct a query that can stuff the db. Is it fixed by deleting the article again? --nad 12:39, 15 June 2008 (NZST)
Just for the article Sandbox on my localhost is the restore stuffed, and only when I try to restore all revisions, restoring the latest revision is fine. However when I created the problem I had posted fields that were incorrect, so I think it is likely to be a MediaWiki bug that I found, hopefully if I have time I can trace and document it. I still havent got the restore functionality going yet. --Sven 13:06, 15 June 2008 (NZST)

Extension:Marketresearch‎

Extension:Marketresearch‎ and talk. --Phalseid 05:59, 11 July 2008 (NZST)

bug in csv2wiki

see http://www.organicdesign.co.nz/Talk:Csv2wiki.pl#bug --Phalseid 08:35, 12 July 2008 (NZST)

Wiki.pl Stability

Yo, I've made changes to Wiki.pl to try to make the WikiEdit function a bit more stable. The issue has been the large conditional regex attempting to grab all relevant hidden key/value pairs on about line 114. As the interface changes subtly the regex occasionally fails. The modified approach just searches for the wpEDitToken key;

g

)) { </php>

then (inefficiently) tests and saves the other wanted keys. It has not been tested across multiple MW versions yet but should be much more stable. --Sven 08:43, 19 December 2008 (NZDT)

Cool thanks ;-) --nad 08:44, 19 December 2008 (NZDT)

MindMap

nad, could you please 1) add the freemind mind map to tmp.peerix.org, and 2) tell me why it is not working any longer on wx? thx! --Phalseid 00:39, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)


where to put stuff

i want to put up info on the platform regarding intentional community. should it go here or on tmp? im not clear as to "why the difference", i guess --Phalseid 00:41, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)

an example is 1) the MW training material i am working with milan on and 2) this community mindmap governance issue. --Phalseid 00:43, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)


project red eye

nad: im hoping you have some down time waiting for decaf stuff, please check out http://tmp.peerix.org/Red_Eye and let me know $/clarification. thx --Phalseid 00:49, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)