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I've recently learned how to play [[w:Sudoku|Sudoku]]. Below is my first really difficult one involving ''bifurcation''.
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I've recently learned how to play [[w:Sudoku|Sudoku]]. Below is my first hard Sudoku.
 
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I've got much better at Sudoku now to the point of no longer finding them very interesting, it's just a matter of marking in the possibilities meticulously and in the case of backtracking jotting down organised information to allow undoing back to the point of the fork.
 
  
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Interestingly after doing many of the Sudoku's which are apparently more difficult than the one above, I've found that logic has been able to reduce the possibilities without the need for backtracking, but after revisiting the one above I found that it is still the most difficult one I've found so far. Below is an example of a "more difficult" one which I was able to complete without any backtracking.
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Tina was able to solve the one above without any backtracking so I'll have to revisit it yet again! Another interesting thing she said which has rekindled my interest in Sudoku is that you should never have to use backtracking, there should always be a purely logical reason for every number to be filled in uniquely otherwise it defeats the purpose of Sudoku.
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I revisited the one above yet again, and this time was able to complete it without requiring any difficult logic, so I must have not been meticulous enough writing in or checking the possibilities the first.
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{{Sudoku|align=left|bgcolor=white|title=''My first very hard Sudoku''|=
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|s1=2|s3=6|s4=4|s8=3|=
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|s10=3|s15=6|=
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|s19=1|s20=7|s23=5|s25=2|=
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|s29=8|s30=9|s31=2|s33=5|s36=7|=
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|s46=7|s49=9|s51=1|s52=8|s53=5|=
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|s57=2|s59=7|s62=8|s63=1|=
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|s67=6|s72=3|=
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|s74=4|s78=8|s79=7|s81=2|=
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I was unable to do this one and I had to get an online solver at [http://www.scanraid.com/sudoku.htm scanraid.com] to do it. The Scanraid solver is excellent because you can select which logic rules it's allowed to use to try and solve it. I was able to discover that this one required the [http://www.sudoku9981.com/sudoku-solving/Simple-Colors.asp simple coloring] and [http://www.scanraid.com/AdvanStrategies.htm#YW y-wing]. There are many other rules to be learned, the rules just mentioned are only ''tough'', but there's also many ''diabolical'' and ''evil'' logical rules! So all in all I think this makes Sudoku very interesting, but requires a fair bit more learning yet ;-)
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{{Sudoku|align=left|bgcolor=white|title=''Hardest requiring only the basic logic''|=
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|s1=8|s2=5|s6=2|s7=4|=
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|s10=7|s11=2|s18=9|=
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|s21=4|=
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|s31=1|s33=7|s36=2|=
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|s37=3|s39=5|s43=9|=
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|s47=4|=
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|s59=8|s62=7|=
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|s65=1|s66=7|=
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|s77=3|s78=6|s80=4|=
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This is a good difficult one for beginners because you have to be quite meticulous, but it doesn't require anything other than the most basic logic to solve.
  
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Tina was able to solve the one above without any backtracking so I'll have to revisit it yet again! Another interesting thing she said which has rekindled my interest in Sudoku is that you should never have to use backtracking, there should always be a purely logical reason for every number to be filled in uniquely otherwise it defeats the purpose of Sudoku.
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{{Sudoku|align=left|bgcolor=white|title=''Absurdly Evil!''|=
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|s37=6|s38=8|s39=1|s41=9|s44=2|=
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|s46=2|=
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|s58=3|s63=7|=
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|s70=8|s71=6|=
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This one is just the most evil one you'll ever find! you'll need to be very familiar with practically all the most severe logic and you'll gain only tiny advantages at the cost of extreme difficulty all the way through. This is currently far beyond my skill, but I'm putting it here in case I'm ready for it one day or if some Sudoku master out there comes across it and wants to give it a crack ;-)
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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*[[Wikipedia:Sudoku]]
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*[http://www.strictlysudoku.com StrictlySudoku.com] ''- looks like a good general sudoku site''
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*[http://www.scanraid.com/sudoku.htm Scanraid Sudoku] ''- An excellent solver allowing selection of rules used''
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*[http://www.sudoku9981.com/sudoku-solving Sudoku9981] ''- Good explanation of logical rules''
 
*[http://www.dailysudoku.co.uk DailySudoku] ''- blank grids can be downloaded and printed from here''
 
*[http://www.dailysudoku.co.uk DailySudoku] ''- blank grids can be downloaded and printed from here''
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*[http://puzzles.about.com/library/sudoku/blindexx.htm About.com Sudoku] ''- over 100 Sudoku's requiring tough logic''
  
 
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Latest revision as of 11:03, 17 September 2007

I've recently learned how to play Sudoku. Below is my first hard Sudoku.

My first difficult Sudoku
    3
  2  
1    
     
4   6
  5  
7    
  8  
    9
  9  
    8
  7  
     
  4  
     
  1  
2    
  9  
6    
  5  
    4
  2 4
3   1
     
    8
  7  
6    

Tina was able to solve the one above without any backtracking so I'll have to revisit it yet again! Another interesting thing she said which has rekindled my interest in Sudoku is that you should never have to use backtracking, there should always be a purely logical reason for every number to be filled in uniquely otherwise it defeats the purpose of Sudoku.

I revisited the one above yet again, and this time was able to complete it without requiring any difficult logic, so I must have not been meticulous enough writing in or checking the possibilities the first.

My first very hard Sudoku
2   6
3    
1 7  
4    
    6
  5  
  3  
     
2    
  8 9
     
7    
2   5
     
9   1
    7
     
8 5  
    2
     
  4  
  7  
6    
    8
  8 1
    3
7   2

I was unable to do this one and I had to get an online solver at scanraid.com to do it. The Scanraid solver is excellent because you can select which logic rules it's allowed to use to try and solve it. I was able to discover that this one required the simple coloring and y-wing. There are many other rules to be learned, the rules just mentioned are only tough, but there's also many diabolical and evil logical rules! So all in all I think this makes Sudoku very interesting, but requires a fair bit more learning yet ;-)

Hardest requiring only the basic logic
8 5  
7 2  
    4
    2
     
     
4    
    9
     
     
3   5
  4  
1   7
     
     
    2
9    
     
     
  1 7
     
  8  
     
  3 6
  7  
     
  4  

This is a good difficult one for beginners because you have to be quite meticulous, but it doesn't require anything other than the most basic logic to solve.

Absurdly Evil!
     
  1 4
     
    5
  2  
  3  
2   1
    9
  5  
  5 7
6 8 1
2    
2    
  9  
     
  8  
  2  
     
     
     
    6
3    
     
  1 4
    7
8 6  
     

This one is just the most evil one you'll ever find! you'll need to be very familiar with practically all the most severe logic and you'll gain only tiny advantages at the cost of extreme difficulty all the way through. This is currently far beyond my skill, but I'm putting it here in case I'm ready for it one day or if some Sudoku master out there comes across it and wants to give it a crack ;-)

See also

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