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Got the micro board so now i'm trying to get it to be a USB host controller. It has a USB chip that does the protocol decoding (removing the encoding bits, terminators etc). The [http://organicdesign.co.nz/Turntable_USB_interface#Board board] is wired in such a way as to tap the TX and RX lines of the USB chip onto two digital pins on the micro. There are also some unterminated CTS USB pins that go to a pad. It seems [[w:UART|UART]] is used to communicate between the two chips, i'm just not sure how this would happen. There is no bus, just a serial connection by the looks. --[[User:Rob|Rob]] 01:31, 11 Feb 2007 (NZST)
 
Got the micro board so now i'm trying to get it to be a USB host controller. It has a USB chip that does the protocol decoding (removing the encoding bits, terminators etc). The [http://organicdesign.co.nz/Turntable_USB_interface#Board board] is wired in such a way as to tap the TX and RX lines of the USB chip onto two digital pins on the micro. There are also some unterminated CTS USB pins that go to a pad. It seems [[w:UART|UART]] is used to communicate between the two chips, i'm just not sure how this would happen. There is no bus, just a serial connection by the looks. --[[User:Rob|Rob]] 01:31, 11 Feb 2007 (NZST)
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Got the micro board so now i'm trying to get it to be a USB host controller. It has a USB chip that does the protocol decoding (removing the encoding bits, terminators etc). The board is wired in such a way as to tap the TX and RX lines of the USB chip onto two digital pins on the micro. There are also some unterminated CTS USB pins that go to a pad. It seems UART is used to communicate between the two chips, i'm just not sure how this would happen. There is no bus, just a serial connection by the looks. --Rob 01:31, 11 Feb 2007 (NZST)

Wikid!

Yo, looks like the time stamp might be one hour behind, it is 12:39am right now --Sven 11:39, 6 Feb 2007 (NZST)

Looks like sig timestamp is 13hr behind - will check it out later --Nad 18:44, 6 Feb 2007 (NZST)

Check this out too; The wayback machine thinks your've had tree skins since Apr 30, 2006 --Sven 07:25, 8 Feb 2007 (NZST)

i was trying to use wayback yesterday and it was jacked on a site. pretty unreliable. --Phalseid 15:22, 8 Feb 2007 (NZST)
Yes, thats what I was remarking about, the communication to the site, not justa snap shot --Sven 19:53, 8 Feb 2007 (NZST)

Hi Aran, Could you please add the user 'Pdaniels64' on the Peerix site to the sec group 'pfs'? This is Joe Macknesses account. Also, tried to send you an e-mail. It was rejected for the following reason:

   Recipient: <aran@organicdesign.co.nz>
   Reason:    <aran@organicdesign.co.nz>: Relay access denied

--Schwaney 22:19, 4 Feb 2007 (NZST)

Pdaniels64 added to pfs
Regarding recurring email problems, have you checked whether the organicdesign domain has been blacklisted? This can happen when it looks like you might be using a domain to send spam. Maybe the peer activity triggered some alert?--Milan 23:07, 4 Feb 2007 (NZST)
Well where's that checked? --Nad 08:36, 5 Feb 2007 (NZST)
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ip4r.ch?ip=organicdesign.co.nz, also part of the {{WHOIS}} template--Phalseid 13:54, 5 Feb 2007 (NZST)

Plus, the reason I went to this page is so that I could structure PFS Wiki Proposal/FAQ page in the same manner as the Todo page i.e. answers are only exposed when the question is clicked. Is this structure easy to do? Can you please also read through the one question on the FAQ page to see if you agree with the answer I have given and to see whther or not you can 'sex' this up. Be careful with all comments though as PFS people are now starting to look at this. --Schwaney 23:29, 21 Jan 2007 (NZST)

I have found merging problems also with IE7. First impressions are that it is a dog of a browser (slow and unresponsive), I found firefox 2.0 to be a bit quicker --Sven 21:23, 25 Jan 2007 (NZST)

Hi Aran, I'll be on the 16:30 ferry from town. See you soon!--Milan 02:34, 19 Jan 2007 (NZST)


Just thought i'd say a quick hello! I'm back early monday morning. It's been an interesting trip - both from a cultural and technological point of view. See you next week. --Rob 20:45, 18 Jan 2007 (NZST)

Cool, seeyou soon oi ;-)

how do i know what are unused elements?--Flower 22:20, 15 Jan 2007 (NZST)

Just look at the "diff" in the changes to see what I removed - all the elements in the properties that you aren't filling in with anything you should remove because they can have unwanted affects later. --Nad 23:04, 15 Jan 2007 (NZST)

I like the sidebar hide/show! I'm also really appreciating the power of the wiki being able to work remotely like this. --Rob 18:58, 12 Jan 2007 (NZST)

hear hear. --Phalseid 20:18, 12 Jan 2007 (NZST)
Yeah, things are so much better when there's no sluggish client-server comms between every click and response!

Check this out. I've talked to the guy at length about this device and it looks perfect for our ideas. It's quite cheap too. --Rob 23:51, 10 Jan 2007 (NZST)

Yeah those are excellent - how much is cheap? is it easy to get peerix on it? --Nad 00:28, 11 Jan 2007 (NZST)
The guy was talking about US$100-200. It has a supplied Kernel loader that can boot multiple kernels in case one does not work. It should be quite simple to get peerix working on it as we're using a cross toolchain anyway. Just need to build a target toolchain for ARM and rebuild the source tree. There might be a few problems but the ARM toolchain is quite well tested now. --Rob 18:41, 11 Jan 2007 (NZST)

Hi from sanfran! At the apple store. There are the greenapple outside projecting a green apple on the side of the building. Heaps of security. The conference opens for real tomorrow. Lots of hype everywhere. I'm interested to see if they come up with anything new. Like the attractor! --Rob 03:10, 9 Jan 2007 (NZST)


could u check sometime why the Category:Waiheke projects appears to have no content, but the article Waiheke food co-op is in this cat?--Flower 08:29, 5 Jan 2007 (NZST)

There's a few minor bugs with the cats, if you just edit the article and save without making any changes it usually fixes it --Nad 09:54, 5 Jan 2007 (NZST)

Didn't realise they were blatant untruths. I thought we talked those numbers a while ago? My memory is suspect though :-). Do you have any approximate numbers that can go in the Management section? Cheers. --Schwaney 22:42, 4 Jan 2007 (NZST)

The "problem" with wiki is that nothing's hidden! just check Special:Statistics on any MediaWiki to get its size and activity etc we're bigger than 90% of them (especially in terms of activity) but still around 1000 times smaller than the english wikipedia. We're ahead of pretty much all wiki's in terms of functionality even though most of that is very "bleeding edge" technology! --Nad
Cheers Nad. I changed the description to something more realistic. Thanks for that. --Schwaney 04:15, 5 Jan 2007 (NZST)

same prob over here. can u pls give me renaming rights? atm i can only copy.--Flower 03:11, 4 Jan 2007 (NZST)

thx
hmmm, just checked the copy/rename option and still only have the copy option. any ideas why?--Flower 01:24, 5 Jan 2007 (NZST)
yupp, now it works. thx!

How do I change the name of an article? --Schwaney 05:46, 3 Jan 2007 (NZST)

Thanks for upgrading my permissions :-) --Schwaney 21:17, 3 Jan 2007 (NZST)

Just wondering how to add print functionality to the PFS Wiki Proposal. --Schwaney 01:14, 3 Jan 2007 (NZST)

Just click "printable version" on the left and then print page as usual --Nad 01:55, 3 Jan 2007 (NZST)
Woops! Didn't see that. Cheers --Schwaney 03:40, 3 Jan 2007 (NZST)

Want to catch up either this evening or this weekend sometime? I want to discuss concepts as per usual, plus I'd like to play some hacky sack. --Firebreather

Sounz good to me - either time's fine by me, just let me know a bit before you leave so I don't go for a walk then --Nad 01:36, 29 Dec 2006 (NZST)
I am keen to catch up too, how about tomorrow afternoon? --Sven 05:15, 29 Dec 2006 (NZST)

Hi Aran, did you get my email regarding Azzuro on-site work today? I would like to swap over the drives in the AWG server if you're around at 11am.--Milan 18:33, 27 Dec 2006 (NZST)

Got internet, restoring acronis image while downloading biz-card debian, so if the image is no-go, I'll install the biz-card debian. Update via phone in ca. 10mins--Milan 07:09, 28 Dec 2006 (NZST)
Looks like the image restored successfully! See if you can SSH into it now--Milan 07:21, 28 Dec 2006 (NZST)
Yip, I'm SSH'd in :-) I need the latest backup tho can you put a cd in or xfer it to net somewhere... --Nad 07:29, 28 Dec 2006 (NZST)
Actually that "Share Documents" folder is mounted to /data3 so put the backups in there and I can use them --Nad 07:38, 28 Dec 2006 (NZST)
I have attached a USB Drive, if you go to the drive, "!Backups/22 December 2006" you will find the usual shared folder structure in there--Milan 07:41, 28 Dec 2006 (NZST)
I can't access the drive copy them to the shared documents folder which should be on network like normal --Nad 07:46, 28 Dec 2006 (NZST)
I don't have permissions to change anything on that shared folder
Bugger - its read-only cos NTFS - is there any other accessible folders like "documents"? --Nad 07:52, 28 Dec 2006 (NZST)
Yeah, I'm able to copy the .rar file into the shared documents folder. It looks like she didn't back it all up though, there are only 4 folders at the top level. Anyway, hopefully they will extract alright once they have been copied across.--Milan 07:57, 28 Dec 2006 (NZST)

So you can't delete those old files either? Would I need to boot into Windows 2000 to do that?--Milan 07:58, 28 Dec 2006 (NZST)


How about a caretaker.pl rule to change occurrances of lib, libs to library, libraries. I took a look but I think the caretaker has been drinking heavily I was not sure that he wouldn't go crazy again. And we wouldn't want that.... --Rob 09:04, 26 Dec 2006 (NZST)


EA/AWG's been down for a day or so, can't get to it by IP... did someone switch the server of for the xmas break or what? --Nad 07:05, 25 Dec 2006 (NZST)

I hope it's not something to do with files corrupting... I was planning to go in on Thursday to swap Hard Drives for AWG server. Anyway, I'll call them soon to see what's up.--Milan 21:01, 25 Dec 2006 (NZST)
I never said this was anything to do with the "static" ip, I'm merely telling you that the server is inaccessible regardless of the statif IP situation. The static IP is not static regardless of what they say - it's being monitored and is changing for an hour or so every day, but thats nothing to do with the server being down. --Nad 08:46, 26 Dec 2006 (NZST)

Most of the items for me to do in the list on AWG need clarifaction. Also the IP is still changing many times per day. --Nad 01:02, 15 Dec 2006 (NZST)


ill be back at the sanctuary sometime tomorrow. not quite sure yet how ill get there as donna leaves too early from tairua for me to catch a ride with her. anyhow, hope to be back sometime in the afternoon.--Flower 12:52, 12 Dec 2006 (NZDT)


Azzuro security should handle moves now - needs testing still - test read/write on moved articles etc too... I'll do the cat one after payment for this - one step at a time with dana since no prior agreements possible --Nad 11:22, 24 Nov 2006 (NZDT)

Cheers, I will do some more tests this arvo when I will do another Azzuro session--Milan 11:38, 24 Nov 2006 (NZDT)

For this nomad site project, just start an article of what the site actually is and how you want to use it, and what the integration is with the external people/sites/content you wanted involved etc. Then we can resolve what the best setup is for that and start it. --Nad 11:05, 23 Nov 2006 (NZDT)


Ok security done, $300 dollars + $50 current outstanding required before nect wednesday or it will be removed again. Needs some testing, see Azzuro:Azzuro Security for instructions on use, lemme know of any issues etc (more work will affect price). --Nad 12:11, 22 Nov 2006 (NZDT)

Cheers, that was quick. So that's 6 hours of coding for security and an hour of misc admin stuff, right? I will begin testing on it tomorrow. I will be invoicing today so I'll send out your invoice for the security stuff as well.--Milan 12:19, 22 Nov 2006 (NZDT)
No its only based on 3hr, I'm just not charging him mates rates anymore. --Nad 12:22, 22 Nov 2006 (NZDT)
Don't bother putting hrs for my work, I'm just doing everything as fixed costs as I do stuff from now on.

Could you call socket at azzuro and ask her to reply to my email she's no responding - I just need a reply to get the IP - its down again and its looking like that same problem...

Ok got IP - it has changed, it wasn't the troppo this time but a bug in the robustification of the dynamic DNS --Nad 09:55, 22 Nov 2006 (NZDT)

hey milan...couple things...noticed you linked to steve pavlina...how do you like him? have you listened to his podcasts yet? also, back to this openbc thing, what a big disappointment. It had such potential. I think im going to throw my hat in the myspace ring, I have had a profile there since april and just updated it tonight...gotta go where the traffic is to spread the word, you know? and finally, i have been putting some work into my own "identity" and have been working with andrew on the whole streamline concept. lastly, do you have any experience with writely/google docs? i see a huge use for collaborative templates, i just hate to duplicate effort there when i know it will fit here so well...i have a cool 'day job' now at a medical school and the whole 'moonlighting' thing with adeft/streamline is coming together. anyway, those are my thoughts for now. how have you been doing? --Phalseid 17:34, 19 Nov 2006 (NZDT)

Hi Peder, thanks for the update. I don't recall how I happened across steve and I can't search for him because my search box isn't working for some reason. I have been struggling to maintain productivity in the face of rapidly shifting living arrangements and work environments lately so my main focus is on setting up a productive work environment and team to work with right now. I am disappointed by openbc too but a have made a few interesting connections thrpugh it. i guess it is not really open... but I closed down my myspace profile ages ago because I think myspace is bit hard on the eyes, know what i mean? Regarding google docs, I am trying to avoid google where I can and keep documents on OD, but I have started using google calendar because it is a really good interface for scheduling. So yeah, I will be mainly working on the whole self-organisation thing until that is working and my productivity creeps up to acceptable levels before taking on any further projects or commitments ;-/. Thanks for the update and have a nice day,--Milan 20:25, 19 Nov 2006 (NZDT)

When you created that properties article for your todo based on the main todo properties, you should have used the new rename/copy facility --Nad 11:36, 19 Nov 2006 (NZDT)

OK, will do next time. For now,it seems like i need to remove the subcats from my todo and just link to them instead, right?--Milan 11:44, 19 Nov 2006 (NZDT)

EA's down again, I'll need the IP to fix it - I'll set something up permenantly on there which posts its IP at least hourly since things are getting so unreliable --Nad 18:48, 18 Nov 2006 (NZDT)


i was wondering if u could help me with setting up the printer. i downloaded the what i think is the right driver but when extracting i only get a list with files i cant open, except a manual which states that it is the correct driver...maybe u can send me a link to a download that is more conventional and me noob will understand to handle? no worries if not... cheers --Flower 22:58, 02 Nov 2006 (NZDT)


n0mad's down again - turned off again? better gimme IP again if not.... --Nad 22:40, 30 Oct 2006 (NZDT)

It wasn't turned off, my flatmates will wait until I leave the house to turn it off! My ip address is: 58.28.157.204--Milan 07:04, 31 Oct 2006 (NZDT)
It must have changed again, I can't access it by that IP... Also, you can fix it manually yourself by going to www.namecheap.com and updating the A record, or by adding a false IP address change record of 1.1.1.1 into hertzie's log and restart peer. --Nad 11:37, 31 Oct 2006 (NZDT)
OK, I can do those things when I get back home later. Is MajorHertz unable to update the ip address himself?--Milan 13:56, 31 Oct 2006 (NZDT)
Not sure what the story was yet cos need to shell in, but couldn't get in on that IP so maybe it changed again... --Nad 14:03, 31 Oct 2006 (NZDT)
(I think I only tried browser here, not SSH)
Here's my ip: 58.28.157.204--Milan 21:39, 31 Oct 2006 (NZDT)
Looks like there's something else afoot - I can shell in and access peer etc, but no browser.... is port 80 open in router? --Nad 21:56, 31 Oct 2006 (NZDT)
DynamicDNS has been working fine, the domain points to the IP you stated above which has been the same since 25th. The webserver is accessible from inside so apache/mysql fine etc. You're obviously able to reach the site from inside the LAN since you made an edit at around 8pm, so it must be either a router problem, or an ISP-route issue (unlikely since we're both on XNet...) --Nad 22:05, 31 Oct 2006 (NZDT)
You're sites up again - what was the problem - pinholes? --Nad 23:01, 1 Nov 2006 (NZDT)
It's strange, I haven't changed anything about the setup. Don't know what's going on there.--Milan 23:19, 1 Nov 2006 (NZDT)
Maybe its damn troppo trying to nuke our wiki-comms since fucking up the email had little effect :-|
Yeah, i tend to get troppophobic quite easily these days, and my ego likes the notion of being important enough for them to give a shit about what I do, that is to spend resource trying to slow me down ;-)
Well you should put regular energy into removing that habit of thought because you'll manifest it into truth otherwise. Also its down again, maybe you should test it when you go to other places so we can see if its just my end or not? --Nad 11:24, 2 Nov 2006 (NZDT)
It's definately your end, I checked from five different servers all on different bandwidth and all timeout connecting to wiki but can instantaneously reach Hertzie. --Nad 12:19, 2 Nov 2006 (NZDT)
OK, let's discuss this tomorrow because I don't know what i can do to diagnose this, but I can't get in from Azzuro either--Milan 13:14, 2 Nov 2006 (NZDT)
If the router says port 80's setup up same as 2012,22 etc then its out of our hands really - try opening another port like 8080 to use when 80 doesn't work. --Nad 14:41, 2 Nov 2006 (NZDT)
All the ports you mentioned are open and map to 192.168.1.1, i have also opened port 8080--Milan 16:32, 2 Nov 2006 (NZDT)
Port 80 working again, but port8080 isn't... hope you haven't got another dodgy router! --Nad 17:03, 2 Nov 2006 (NZDT)
Oops, forgot to add Listen 8080 to apache config. --Nad 17:10, 2 Nov 2006 (NZDT)
80's down again, but I could get in fine with 8080, so at least our contingency plan works alright - still pretty weird tho :-? --Nad 19:52, 2 Nov 2006 (NZDT)

hey Milan, Andrew: Trying a new way of introduction here....Milan, i have introduced a local friend of mine Andrew to OD. before i got involved with OD, Andrew and I had many discussions about "glue", the technology behind an organized and collaborative system. As you may know Milan, i got interested in the project primarily for technical reasons and mindset (wanted to have visual wiki workflow), but I have stayed around to learn and to apply organic design to my life. Andrew, Milan has been a very positive and encouraging force on this wiki and can help with the same "glue" concept called Platform. Im really hoping that we can all collaborate as we are all working on (seemingly) the same stuff- invoices,templates, PM, etc. We all need do it the "same way" (no matter where in the world we are) as far as process goes. The people part of the equation should be interchangeable. It is the process that counts. So, Andrew, I hope Milan beat a bit of "the project" into your skull. Milan, I hope you enjoy working with Andrew as much I enjoy it... --Phalseid 15:11, 26 Oct 2006 (NZDT)

Thanks Peder, and "Hi" Andrew. That all sounds good, guys, I'll be glad to develop the collaboration with you. I have been working with offline clients who aren't into organisation and that has often proved frustrating, especially when they are into organisation according to their opinions... An easy starting point would be that IT support stuff, I need to do that for my business anyway, so maybe we can put some workflows in and develop a knowledge base, as well as maybe some IT support workshop material.--Milan 16:09, 26 Oct 2006 (NZDT)
good call on the embedding. sorry. i went a little nuts with it tonight...oh well. anyway, i moved a bunch of Maxpc and Adeft.com stuff over to Category:IT Support. it will take a while to organize, i see we use a lot of similar tools, and some that are different, like the ones for inventory. --Phalseid 16:24, 26 Oct 2006 (NZDT)

Milan, do you know where that article is where we were playing around with xml properties of a human soul? it was related to our discussion about privacy and permission to access our stuff, and charging people for access to personal information...? anyway, i can't seem to find it. i want to add notes about making an article private or accessible by updating it's properties, and writing an XMLWiki script that can do it based on payment. For example, say i wanted only people who paid $5.00 to be able read access an article, 50.00 to write access it, etc. They pay the 5 bucks, gateway approves them or not, and based on that the properties page of an article gets updated, adding their name to the permissions or something. kinda like a subscription. tell me what you think, if this fits into the project philosophy, and if you know what article i am talking 'bout... --Phalseid 19:19, 24 Oct 2006 (NZDT)

Hi Peder, the article where you talked about this is here: Profile, but I am not too keen on the whole idea of charging for access and I don't think it is in alignment with project principles. I could imagine people being paid to manage content or write, however. I guess it's up to you what you do with your XMLWiki or Peer, but I am more interested in service-based business models and would prefer to work with you on the manifesto or other stuff to progress the overall project. Cheers for asking though.--Milan 22:40, 24 Oct 2006 (NZDT)
thanks Milan for the link and comments. this is a perfect segway into the Charging & payment section of the manifesto...first of all, i want to affirm my commitment to the project and the principals. :) that is the focus of what we are doing. second, i don't think i was clear with my intetions, so i will brain dump to begin work on charging & payment for the manefesto. --Phalseid 02:07, 25 Oct 2006 (NZDT)

Excellent contribution on common ground.--Phalseid 15:26, 22 Oct 2006 (NZDT)


Also, EA and AWG have been down for a while, I wonder if its just DNS or something more? --Nad 13:33, 14 Oct 2006 (NZDT)

AWG and EA still down, have you contacted them about this yet? it will probably be that the peer broke when the evil-bender mangled things, and I still need the IP if I'm going to fix it. --Nad 09:32, 18 Oct 2006 (NZDT)
Aran, I have contacted Azzuro admin lady and she will provide the ip address shortly.--Milan 10:06, 18 Oct 2006 (NZDT)

Long time no wiki - have you got your internet cafe up and running then? and what's died in your lappie? Don't think I'll be heading out to the party not in much of a social state really. --Nad 22:26, 12 Oct 2006 (NZST)


Hey brother, nice looking page, i hadn't seen it for a while. i like the new OD look, too. so, when can you and i start crackin' on the Manifesto again? I have some time now if you want to throw down some ideas/fill me in...--Phalseid 02:20, 2 Oct 2006 (NZST)


EA's down again - they have a lot of outages - I assume its the ISP, but can't be sure, you should discuss that at the next meeting - maybe they should change to XNet. yesterday an outage lasted for more than an hour :-|

What's weird though is that we can still access EA Wiki. Surely that would be accessible if it was an outage?

AWG/EA's been down for a while - maybe you should give them a call....

No worries, Helios gave me the info on my talkpage that I needed to fix it manually ;-)

Talk:Azzuro LAN I take it from the XNet IP of the edit on GPWiki that you've got your DSL sorted then?


Have a look at category:changes and make a list of pages in other mediawiki's you want to merge - its the old merged changes again, but much better this time - you do individual pages on any number of different wiki's and it doesn't slow the recentchanges loading down at all (but probably keep it to about 20 items or less for now) --Nad 21:57, 20 Sep 2006 (NZST)


oi! where are ya?


You said you'd be in touch 10-11 re server install, why have you not been in contact regarding the changes in plan. --Nad 13:42, 13 Sep 2006 (NZST)


That EA outage appears to be the server itself as the router is responding to pings, perhaps there was apower outage and it didn't restart, you might have to call the office there (or better get it moved and get its backups sorted!) --Nad 10:19, 7 Sep 2006 (NZST)

Is it being sorted? or has it been deliberately disabled? --Nad 11:56, 7 Sep 2006 (NZST)
Maybe you should try calling the office where its actually situated. Usually a downed server is considered urgent, or are they not too fussed about it in this case...? --Nad 12:43, 7 Sep 2006 (NZST)

Hi Milan, found you! Thought I'd alert you to a message in response to a message I think was from you??

Hi Dan- Sent you email yesterday. Are you accessing this space still?

Hi Milan? Not sure when this was posted but no recent email and am accessing this infrequently. Very interested in following Organic Design implementations and of course EA though I guess that's on the back burner for now. I'm still here and very much open to dialogue and ideas. Hope this is on your watchlist! I notice the migration of Wiki to Whiti? Wondering if there is timescale for this? If it's still on the cards let me know when - gives us opportunity to use the box for other things. Finally, hope you're having fun at Azzuro and looking forward to seeing OD in action! Dan --Dan 21:02, 21 Aug 2006 (NZST)


You off the phone yet - I'm going to stone oven now --Nad 09:37, 1 Sep 2006 (NZST)


Wikipedia:Renewable energy --Nad 17:36, 20 Aug 2006 (NZST)


I fucked up a bunch of your lists because I was deleting batches of XML Orphans, but a whole lot of them were list-cats and things - we went thru this orphans thing ages ago and I thought you'd got rid of them - don't put properties on non-existent pages, make a page wth a colon or <p> in it.

I tried undeleting them and they didn't seem to be valid properties articles, which means they probably weren't functional pages anyway, so probably nothing to worry about. --Nad 13:33, 20 Aug 2006 (NZST)

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Thanks for openning the door, it feels freindly and warm in here!--Kerry 17:42, 11 Aug 2006 (NZST)</nowiki>