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| + | == Discussing Templates == | ||
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| + | [6:20:53 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: well as you can see i'm up for that | ||
| + | [6:21:00 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: with those templates | ||
| + | [6:21:04 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: two main issues | ||
| + | [6:21:10 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: sort key | ||
| + | [6:21:18 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: and layout | ||
| + | [6:22:02 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: if you look at http://organicdesign.co.nz/Milan/I_Ging_Das_Buch_der_Wandlungen | ||
| + | [6:22:09 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: you'll see what i mean | ||
| + | [6:22:32 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: i did the templates azzuro styule so you can copy and paste params | ||
| + | [6:23:57 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: actually it should just have the resource template | ||
| + | [6:23:59 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: yeah already saw those, they're fine to get things started | ||
| + | [6:24:55 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: yea that raises some questions | ||
| + | [6:25:07 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: let me try something | ||
| + | [6:25:17 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: think it could be more elegant like so | ||
| + | [6:30:00 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: http://organicdesign.co.nz/Milan/I_Ging_Das_Buch_der_Wandlungen | ||
| + | [6:30:04 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: this could work | ||
| + | [6:30:43 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: just thinking about the sort key thing | ||
| + | [6:30:46 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: maybe, we need to think about that tho | ||
| + | [6:31:04 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: i don't like it showing up as Milan/book | ||
| + | [6:31:05 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: the link to the book should probably be in "type" | ||
| + | [6:31:45 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: i was thinking that would be good for a workspace for dealing with that kind of resource | ||
| + | [6:32:25 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: i mean a link to said workspace | ||
| + | [6:32:41 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: for access to book cat and template, booking books, etc. | ||
| + | [6:32:56 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: anyway, it's a start | ||
| + | [6:35:15 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: I reckon you should move the book-link into "type" not the heading | ||
| + | [6:36:08 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: what should be in the heading? | ||
| + | [6:36:28 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: Just resource (linking to resources maybe) | ||
| + | [6:36:49 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: Type means "instance of" | ||
| + | [6:37:29 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: I think we need to think about it more tho really | ||
| + | [6:37:47 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: So type means "instance of" followed by a link to the definition of the thing, in this case book? | ||
| + | [6:37:47 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: it may be that the book template should contain the resource template | ||
| + | [6:38:07 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: no in thise case " I Ging Das Buch der Wandlungen" | ||
| + | [6:38:16 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: yeah let's do some more thought on it and then do some face time on it | ||
| + | [6:38:28 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: k | ||
| + | [6:38:39 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: but i see where you're coming from | ||
| + | [6:38:39 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: I reckon template resource inside template book is the one tho | ||
| + | [6:39:01 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: shall we record these comments somewhere? | ||
| + | [6:39:06 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: so that you're giving the resource properties to the book | ||
| + | </pre> | ||
== Templates & Packages == | == Templates & Packages == | ||
An organisational wiki relies heavily on establishing convention, and this come in the form of centralised repositories of documentation and templates. Templates are also used to add standard sets of attributes to articles, in effect allowing them to more like objects than text articles. Such templates can also include semantic annotations to further standardise the attributes and make them universally accessible. | An organisational wiki relies heavily on establishing convention, and this come in the form of centralised repositories of documentation and templates. Templates are also used to add standard sets of attributes to articles, in effect allowing them to more like objects than text articles. Such templates can also include semantic annotations to further standardise the attributes and make them universally accessible. | ||
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We've been developing organisational systems and related ideas within the MediaWiki software for a few years now and have set up Organic Design as a platform for a team of us to work on these ideas together. | We've been developing organisational systems and related ideas within the MediaWiki software for a few years now and have set up Organic Design as a platform for a team of us to work on these ideas together. | ||
| − | We work on a number of different development projects and use a variety of different software in the process, but our main organisational infrastructure is MediaWiki and ties all the other technology together. Our system has a lot of room for improvement, but over the years we've developed quite a refined idea of what we'd like to see in such a system. Following is a brief outline of our experiences and plans. | + | We work on a number of different development projects and use a variety of different software in the process, but our main organisational infrastructure is MediaWiki and ties all the other technology together. Our system has a lot of room for improvement, but over the years we've developed quite a refined idea of what we'd like to see in such a system. Following is a brief outline of our experiences and plans. |
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Revision as of 06:43, 2 June 2008
Discussing Templates
[6:20:53 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: well as you can see i'm up for that [6:21:00 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: with those templates [6:21:04 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: two main issues [6:21:10 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: sort key [6:21:18 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: and layout [6:22:02 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: if you look at http://organicdesign.co.nz/Milan/I_Ging_Das_Buch_der_Wandlungen [6:22:09 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: you'll see what i mean [6:22:32 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: i did the templates azzuro styule so you can copy and paste params [6:23:57 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: actually it should just have the resource template [6:23:59 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: yeah already saw those, they're fine to get things started [6:24:55 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: yea that raises some questions [6:25:07 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: let me try something [6:25:17 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: think it could be more elegant like so [6:30:00 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: http://organicdesign.co.nz/Milan/I_Ging_Das_Buch_der_Wandlungen [6:30:04 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: this could work [6:30:43 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: just thinking about the sort key thing [6:30:46 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: maybe, we need to think about that tho [6:31:04 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: i don't like it showing up as Milan/book [6:31:05 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: the link to the book should probably be in "type" [6:31:45 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: i was thinking that would be good for a workspace for dealing with that kind of resource [6:32:25 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: i mean a link to said workspace [6:32:41 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: for access to book cat and template, booking books, etc. [6:32:56 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: anyway, it's a start [6:35:15 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: I reckon you should move the book-link into "type" not the heading [6:36:08 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: what should be in the heading? [6:36:28 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: Just resource (linking to resources maybe) [6:36:49 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: Type means "instance of" [6:37:29 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: I think we need to think about it more tho really [6:37:47 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: So type means "instance of" followed by a link to the definition of the thing, in this case book? [6:37:47 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: it may be that the book template should contain the resource template [6:38:07 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: no in thise case " I Ging Das Buch der Wandlungen" [6:38:16 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: yeah let's do some more thought on it and then do some face time on it [6:38:28 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: k [6:38:39 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: but i see where you're coming from [6:38:39 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: I reckon template resource inside template book is the one tho [6:39:01 p.m.] Milan Holzapfel says: shall we record these comments somewhere? [6:39:06 p.m.] Aran Dunkley says: so that you're giving the resource properties to the book
Templates & Packages
An organisational wiki relies heavily on establishing convention, and this come in the form of centralised repositories of documentation and templates. Templates are also used to add standard sets of attributes to articles, in effect allowing them to more like objects than text articles. Such templates can also include semantic annotations to further standardise the attributes and make them universally accessible.
Selections
DPL can be used to select articles based on categorisation and templates in use, and SMW can make queries based on specific attributes and relationships. Custom forms should be made for making selections on specific sets of criteria such as date or financial attributes and can also involve filters to reduce the selection down. The forms should be interchangeable without clearing the selection.
Reporting
Once selections are made the results are by default rendered in a similar way to a category page, but different templates can be used through which the selection is rendered such as a sortable spreadsheet table or a tax return form.
Workflow
Each job is an article in the wiki and it is categorised based on its state such as "in progress" or "completed". The idea of wiki workflow is to use categorisation to allow larger jobs to undergo interaction with multiple roles in the correct sequences.
We've been developing organisational systems and related ideas within the MediaWiki software for a few years now and have set up Organic Design as a platform for a team of us to work on these ideas together.
We work on a number of different development projects and use a variety of different software in the process, but our main organisational infrastructure is MediaWiki and ties all the other technology together. Our system has a lot of room for improvement, but over the years we've developed quite a refined idea of what we'd like to see in such a system. Following is a brief outline of our experiences and plans.
