Talk:Organisational Portal

hey, great to see this started. i will do all i can to contribute/improve processes as they come up. From experierience, the first place a company needs organization/processes is accounting. I have some good material to contribute here, forthcoming. --Phalseid 06:46, 23 Jun 2006 (NZST)

Accounts are the foundation of the peer system too. Accounts when thought about more generically are actually based on the list of changes to the dimensions of resource within the organisation. At the lowest level of physics its all accounting! --Nad 09:43, 24 Jun 2006 (NZST)

are you talking debits and credits in a sense? fascinating. im really excited to see what im about to learn thru this process. --Phalseid 14:57, 23 Jun 2006 (NZST)

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uh, a thought. what is the groupthink on companies that (i personally) we may have "ethical" problems with abusing this information? ie. spammers, etc. Does the wiki philosophy belief that good people > bad people apply here? can we keep the crap under control? milan, this goes back into our Manifesto discussion i think. aran, your thoughts? --Phalseid 06:56, 23 Jun 2006 (NZST)

The OD wiki is "mine", and therefore if I don't like something I'll change it, and if I don't like a user I'll delete them! After we release the p2p version, then there'll be no "global admins" and people can do what they like. Things like spam will not work in the new system the way the currently do because such patterns of behaviour are easily recognised by the system and results in less opportunity for the spammer. --Nad 09:41, 24 Jun 2006 (NZST)

understood. my question was more of the "application" of the principles by the "bad guys" (yin?) . anyone can read it. (right?) is this system self-contained such that the processes only work WITHIN its own structure (which i doubt, but see my notes on history) or that the processes will work with a myriad of other tools. so my concern is that knowledge learned here can (and will) be mis-applied. if that makes sense. im fine just admitting it and moving on, but first, i have to admit it....--Phalseid 14:57, 23 Jun 2006 (NZST)

The evil principle of death is Yin - its natural and is required for the growth and evolution of the network. There is no life without death, potential can only exist within an environment of inherent reduction.

Actually the processes built within the network can only really work within the network, because they require nodal reduction to work, but the network can work with any legacy technology. The main power of the network is its holistic connectivity which only well supported ideas can benefit from, which will reduce the bad ideas to minimal resource, while great resource would support projects designed to stop bad things (not only in-network things, but external issues such as poverty, war and whaling). --Nad 10:05, 24 Jun 2006 (NZST)

but does well supported="right"? War is usually "well supported" at some point. --Phalseid 15:11, 23 Jun 2006 (NZST)

Well that's where faith comes in - I believe that Humanity would do the right thing en-mass when they can see objectively the state of affairs and the right and wrong courses of action laid out before them. People are not inherently evil, its difficulty of circumstance, ignorance, denial etc that bring out these evil qualities. People being born in sin does not mean they are born evil, it simply means they are born into the illusion of not being God (the Source) --Nad 10:20, 24 Jun 2006 (NZST)

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That's lookin' good and useful - don't spend too much time on design though as its not easily maintainable and reuseable in this environment. But having evolved collections of these templates and forms will be extremely useful peer content to migrate.

Also, on another note - I coudn't edit it directly on that form, but you should add in to your notions re channels: They have both input and output context - input is the different ways requests and information can get to the org and router to a role. But output is the media-channel, kind of like shared playlists (or content-schedule) over all the classes of media. --Nad 17:16, 23 Jun 2006 (NZST)

Copy that re design, that's as flash as it gets, just trying to get a basic, friendly-looking layout for the high-level biz sitter ws. I'll add the input-output stuff to the comms channels notion, I was trying to get that defined more clearly for EA. I guess output would also include newsletters and suchlike, although blogs seem to be replacing those now.--Milan 17:22, 23 Jun 2006 (NZST)

Yip newsletters, emails, blogs, websites, video, audio, presentations etc... But the key thing in thinking about it the nodal way is as channels ie items filling up timelines so that content in dynamic streams can be collaborated on while still in the future, and solidify as they approach the present and become history. --Nad 17:55, 23 Jun 2006 (NZST)

Sections

One further section is still missing, this is the "Events" one. It will be added soon and will include things like: "I want to order a product" or "A customer is calling on the phone", etc.--Milan 17:22, 23 Jun 2006 (NZST)

Events are related to the input channels, they are occurences which happen within the context of an input channel --Nad 17:58, 23 Jun 2006 (NZST)

smallbusiness.com wiki

the following wiki is weak content-wise but heavy advertising wise.... http://www.smallbusiness.com/wiki/Main_Page

--Phalseid 08:18, 23 Jun 2006 (NZST)