User talk:Nad

Howdy, I have been having some trouble logging with $wgSiteNotice. If it is assigned at the beginning of Extension:Fasta, I have no problems, if I declare it as a global in the constructor method 'Fasta' , it executes, as the constuctor is executed when the class is declared. If I put it in any other method function $wgSiteNotice is not written to --Sven 00:17, 13 May 2007 (NZST)

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yo nad, how can we dynamically copy the news/main page over to wikiexpert.com? --Phalseid 08:42, 11 May 2007 (NZST)

The usual way to do that kind of thing id with Scary Transclusion, but enabling that is a bit scary. I think a slight modification to livelets.php would do the trick, I'll have a look at it soon. --Nad 09:06, 11 May 2007 (NZST)

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Theres three versions of treeview kicking around, Treeview3.php, MediaWiki treeview.php, and Extension:Treeview.php, I assume the first two can be deleted --Sven 19:01, 10 May 2007 (NZST)

When you deleted one, you made a comment that ones a redirect, Treeview3.php, Extension:Treeview.php (don't look like redirects), are they different versions? --Sven 19:45, 10 May 2007 (NZST)

Ok, I have fixed the links on MW as they were refering to Treeview3.php. there was some code differences with Extension:Treeview.php so I hope it was the right one --Sven 20:42, 10 May 2007 (NZST)

No it was the wrong one it should be linking to Extension:Treeview.php which I've changed it to now --Nad 20:50, 10 May 2007 (NZST)

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Yo, in [[Talk:Extension:Example]] I put a question regarding the use of $wgExampleVersion and version in $wgExtensionCredits['parserhook'][]. Can you put the $wgExampleVersion variable as input to the associative array key 'Version'? --Sven 12:26, 10 May 2007 (NZST)

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Is the latest version of Extension:Example installed on OD, I cannot get it to work on my local wiki here, get a blank page --Sven

oops, yip there was a bug in it, it's fixed and latest installed on OD --Nad 23:23, 7 May 2007 (NZST)

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Yo, on mediaWiki I noticed this version control of an extension using transclusion, MW:Template:Google Maps Extension Latest, I wonder if there is a better way to do this where versioning using history information somehow to increment, a minor edit would increment the 0.0.0 to 0.0.1, and a major edit 0.0.0 to 0.1.0, and reverts decrement. Maybe it is not a good idea as some editors would be lazy and not use the minor edits check box. --Sven 22:03, 6 May 2007 (NZST)

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Yo, Zenia will find this wikipeida article interesting on Vioxx, oh and I accidentally picked up their sissors, will get them back ASAP. --Sven 07:44, 5 May 2007 (NZST)

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Yo, coming over tomorrow morning. I can't find what is causing the underlines in the lnks which have not yet been viewed, I expected it to have been this difference --Sven 23:09, 3 May 2007 (NZST)

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On http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Version]] there is an extension that goes with dpl, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/DPLforum. Might be worth checking out --Sven 19:58, 2 May 2007 (NZST)

Could have some good code to check out, I wouldn't want to use it as part of our extension collection though as forks are a pain in the arse --Nad 22:25, 2 May 2007 (NZST)

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Yo, Check out MW:Extension:Nuke, why use nuke.php when you can do it in the wiki? --Sven 11:49, 2 May 2007 (NZST)

We already have that installed, see special:nuke - it's not quite what we want as it only works for pages created by a certain ip, not an arbitrary list - also I tested that nukePage.php and it seems like it was about to nuke thousands of pages, but luckily it generated invalid SQL and bailed. --Nad 12:07, 2 May 2007 (NZST)

How come special:Nuke is not listed in the Special:Version? - There is also maintenance/deleteBatch.php for multiple pages --Sven 13:57, 2 May 2007 (NZST)

Dunno, just depends if they add to the credit hash in their code, it's listed as "mass delete" at the bottom of Special:Specialpages tho --Nad 14:28, 2 May 2007 (NZST)

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Is the variable {{CURRENTUSER}} one that yourve defined on this wiki in LocalSettings.php? -looks like it --Sven 16:12, 1 May 2007 (NZST)

There some info on adding CURRENTUSER on 'Pedia --Sven 16:16, 1 May 2007 (NZST)

Yip it's added by Wikiskin.php. The 'pedia code you're referring to was added by me too --Nad 16:22, 1 May 2007 (NZST)

While were on the subject, the MW:Extension:Simple_Calendar extension example uses {{CURRENTUSER}} which is not generally available on mediaWiki --Sven 22:03, 1 May 2007 (NZST)

Good point, I added a note and link to MW:Extension:Variables which explains how to add it. --Nad 22:09, 1 May 2007 (NZST)

Also, MetaWikipedia:VariablesExtension documentation suggests putting it in a directory called Variables aswell. Could rename your extansion to AddVariables to avoid confusion --Sven 08:53, 2 May 2007 (NZST)

My one doesn't go in any directory, it's just example code explaining how to do it so the name doesn't really matter --Nad 09:50, 2 May 2007 (NZST)

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Regarding DPL, there is active development in the versions, they are now up to V1.1.4

I get an sql error on my system trying to run dpl; <mysql> A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function "". MySQL returned error "1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'select rev_user_text from `revision` where `revision`.rev_page= (localhost)". </mysql> Seems to be to do with the (localhost) part, this should be an integer refering to the particular user. I wonder whether this is because of the mysql version I am using (V 4.0.21) --Sven 12:12, 1 May 2007 (NZST)

I doubt it's the MySQL version, more likely the dpl version - maybe try the dpl version we're running before changing mysql --Nad 12:35, 1 May 2007 (NZST)

I tried that first, used V1.1.0 and I still get the message --Sven 12:50, 1 May 2007 (NZST)

It was the version of mysql, it needs to be V4.1.x not 4.0.x --Sven 15:57, 1 May 2007 (NZST)

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Yo, saw your download template, DPL have wiped my stuff and added a media:zip download. --Sven 08:47, 1 May 2007 (NZST)

Cool, that's much better than links which require the files to then be edited --Nad 09:10, 1 May 2007 (NZST)

You probably need to purge the files still, do they actually get deleted? --Sven 12:12, 1 May 2007 (NZST)

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Theres also a couple of GeShi highlighters,

• GeSHiCodeTag_Extension (Paul Nolasco)
• Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi (Brion Vibber)

We are uing the first one with your hack --Sven 13:53, 30 April 2007 (NZST)

Yeah I checked out both, the second one didn't work straight out of the box and the first one did, so that's what we're using ;-)

Ive just got Paul Nolascos version going, its a bit non standard putting his script in extensions, rather than a sub directory geshi. I am not sure what effect putting

<php>include("extensions/GeSHiCodeTag.php"); </php> before $wgSiteName in LocalSettings.php, seems to work with the code at the end of the file for me. Will try adding your bit--Sven 15:18, 30 April 2007 (NZST)

It makes no difference whether its in a subdir or not, I've put all our geshi stuff in extensions/geshi --Nad 15:32, 30 April 2007 (NZST)

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Yo, it appears that DynamicPageList2 is and older extension for wikinews;

• http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList2#DynamicPagelist2_vs._DynamicPageList
• http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList
• http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList2

--Sven 09:13, 30 April 2007 (NZST)

It says in special:version that we have 1.1.0, so that's ok I think --Nad 09:34, 30 April 2007 (NZST)

Yeah thats probably ok, I notice DynamicPageList is 1.1.1, have you checked out the extension Inputbox, how does this differ from your Simple forms? --Sven 13:20, 30 April 2007 (NZST)

Yip I looked at the existing ones before starting. Inputbox is designed to work with CreateAction and isn't really a general purpose forms solution. And CreateArticle doesn't do the actual creation process, it just goes to edit like a red link, but allows default content in the textarea. SimpleForms is an overall forms solution with ways of handling form construction, processing and results. --Nad 13:54, 30 April 2007 (NZST)

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Also, I think either the metawikipedia:Interwiki map or our interwiki table is out of date, a few links were missing in MediaWiki Documentation --Sven 21:54, 27 April 2007 (NZST)

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Hi Aran,

Congrats on getting the skin and other bits and pieces functional again, it's looking quite tidy around here :-) I was hoping you could check out this dpl stuff for me when you get a chance, the error is displayed under Milan/Contacts. I did end up catching that 19:45 ferry with two minutes to spare but it took a fair amount of determination, heh.

I will begin getting some templates and forms in there now, nice to see that the form can be tied into the template with that "noinclude" trick that you wrote down today, I was wondering about that. My first milestone with forms will be to get the functionality of a simple CRM happening and then to get csv imports from vtiger or sugarcrm.

I'll just start with rough'n'ready forms and templates and hope you and "sven" can smooth 'em out as you go :-)--Milan 23:01, 26 April 2007 (NZST)

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Hi Aran,

I will be on the 15:30 ferry to devonport, see you then--Milan 09:30, 24 April 2007 (NZST)

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Yo, one thing I have been thinking about is differentiating new template categorization from old lagacy categorization of xmlwiki. If we use a namespace e.g. something like category:OD/templates then we can differentiate and sort out the old templates from category:templates. Once this is completed in a cat, remove the OD/ What do ya reacon? --Sven 08:35, 23 April 2007 (NZST)

The stuff in the templates cat is either current stuff that needs to be upgraded, or old legacy stuff to be removed, no need to preserve the old xmlwiki structure, just dump any stuff that's in the way out into old legacy cat. --Nad 09:17, 23 April 2007 (NZST)

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Yo, currently the GeSHi syntax highlighting does not take place if you embed the article inside another, e.g. see below message in Sven/30 March 2007 --Sven 07:08, 22 April 2007 (NZST)

Yeah I know, but you can just use the tags like normal if it's an embed. --Nad 08:33, 22 April 2007 (NZST)

How? My experimentations have all failed so far --Sven 20:23, 25 April 2007 (NZST)

I mean putting the tags around the transclude statement, not in the transcluded article, eg:

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Don't know if this helps, but I figured out that the portlet template freaks out if an "=" appears anywhere in any links contained in it. To test this, I removed the two "=" symbols contained in the links of one of your portlets and it renders the links now. Still looks kinda whack though :-) Plus, the edit formatting buttons have disappeared again. They like to hide a lot, it seems--Milan 14:45, 19 April 2007 (NZST)

Also, how do embed html snippets now? I'm trying to get snippets like this one to render properly...--Milan 15:02, 19 April 2007 (NZST)

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Yo, dont know if your've noticed but in a recent addition to mediaWiki they have added byte changes by edit to the Special:Recentchanges, this is such a good idea. Once things are a bit more sorted out, we should adopt the same color notation used in Wikipedia --Sven 10:15, 18 April 2007 (NZST)

One small point about it is the byte changes should be before the article names so they are formatted nicely --Sven 10:17, 18 April 2007 (NZST)

I'm going to have to rewrite the changes anyway so they can work from within wiklets, and plus I hate their changes format and will use more of an xmlwiki style for it. --Nad 10:23, 18 April 2007 (NZST)

Just noticed that the latest build on wikipedia now also adds a byte change in recent changes for any article e.g. wikipedia:Sandbox history --Sven 17:49, 22 April 2007 (NZST)

Actually it only shows a positive amount for additions or deletions and applies to certain articles only --Sven 17:51, 22 April 2007 (NZST)

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Hi Aran, just letting you know that in my navigation window to the left *your* tree is showing up rather than mine.--Milan 14:17, 17 April 2007 (NZST)

I am cuttently getting the tree udearneath the article :( --Sven 10:15, 18 April 2007 (NZST)

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Hi Aran, I forget, are recursive trees working on OD wiki at the mo, or not? If so, what's the syntax? Cheers,--Milan 14:51, 16 Apr 2007 (NZST)

Old <div> syntax means no recursive tree. --Nad 15:16, 16 Apr 2007 (NZST)

Ta.--Milan 15:47, 16 Apr 2007 (NZST)

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work request here, can pay a small amount for you to set this up. ;) --Phalseid 00:53, 14 Apr 2007 (NZST)

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Peder just recommend me to talk with you. I am running WikiSynthesis.com right now. I want the Java chemical structure drawing to be included in wiki editor applet. Jmol, marvin, and JME are good source for java applet so far. We will discuss more in details. Would you mind to email me at kkhownium (hotmail) to discuss in details? --Willy

Hi Willy, There's already a MediaWiki extension available, see the following sites:

• http://fahwiki.net/index.php/Jmol_MediaWiki_Extension
• http://wiki.jmol.org:81/index.php/Main_Page
• Here's an example: http://wiki.jmol.org:81/index.php/Jmol_MediaWiki_Extension

It looks far more extensive than just the applet-embedding part and so would probably be best keeping in touch with that extension's developers and users rather than getting a new one made which would more basic and probably not give you the control you need. --Nad 08:50, 13 Apr 2007 (NZST)

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aran, emailed you credz to my whole godaddy acc't. it is good until november 07, i found. sorry for the trouble. --Phalseid 09:49, 8 Apr 2007 (NZST)

I canceled, they are refunding 178.44 in trans. 5808906 --Phalseid 07:08, 10 Apr 2007 (NZST)

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Hi, looks like the AWG is down at the mo'. Just been trying to put up the SLA and not getting on it. Also, could I drop by tomorrow arvo after Azzuro on-site work to catch up? It will be late arvo by the time I get to Devo - I'll update your talk page when I leave at Azzuro--Milan 17:42, 2 Apr 2007 (NZST)

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Can we catch up this weekend sometime? got some ideas i want to discuss --Firebreather 06:13, 29 Mar 2007 (NZST)

Shrrr lemme know what time so I'm not out for a walk --Nad 07:52, 29 Mar 2007 (NZST)

What about tomorrow/sat for a visit? --Sven 19:46, 29 Mar 2007 (NZST)

Yip tomorrow's fine, what time you reckon? --Nad 20:35, 29 Mar 2007 (NZST)

Round 10am or so, confirm tomorrow if you like --Sven 22:13, 29 Mar 2007 (NZST)

Ok seeyou then ;-)

I don't think I can make it until about 1130-1200--Firebreather 22:39, 30 Mar 2007 (NZST)

Running really late, got a hot swedish chick on my hands --Firebreather 13:06, 31 Mar 2007 (NZST)

No worries, but adopting a noitification of ETA changed by > 30min event/habit might be an idea --Nad 14:07, 31 Mar 2007 (NZST)

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Nad, do you have any time to take a look at the WikiChat stuff and help me try and figure out why its not loading on the tab? I've tried all sorts of things but can't figure it out. The relevant code is in extensions\WikiChatTab.php.

Nevermind. In a stroke of (self described) sheer brillance, I realized what the problem was and got it working!!! --Firebreather 06:29, 24 Mar 2007 (NZST)

oi, come back to the chat room (need to test multiuser) --Firebreather 06:47, 24 Mar 2007 (NZST)

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Hey, mucked up vintage stock on peerix, can't find list again, in articles but not in link from wiki?

I've taken all the stuff out of the "auckland" article and deleted that article, and pasted the list into Peerix:Zenovia/Vintage Stock. I'm not sure if that's what you wanted done. Just remember to copy the text out of the old page you don't want anymore before you change the link to a new page. --Nad 13:44, 23 Mar 2007 (NZST)

No thats not right? The link from wiki went to Auckland, but in the articles in the peerix there is Vintage Stock which has all the names around NZ including Auckland?

Also my personal budget doesn't seem to be secure in the peerix? Business personal goals also not there anymore or secure in peerix??

There is no article called "Personal Budget" or "Zenovia/Personal Budget", you need to write it as a link so I know exactly what you're talking about. I think you should spend some time each day just working out what articles you need and everything because it's no good having so much time going into finding lost stuff. --Nad 14:54, 23 Mar 2007 (NZST)

oops I actually meant personal/goals

I can't see any article called personal goals either!? what's the exact name of the article you're talking about? --Nad 15:01, 23 Mar 2007 (NZST)

Howdy, I found Zenovia/Personal Budget and Zenovia/Goals. Zenovia, here are some useful tools for finding things. 1. Find all articles you are the author to, use the author article e.g.

Author lists all articles created by you.

You can find other peoples articles using the following syntax: http://www.organicdesign.co.nz/wiki/index.php?title=Author&user=nad

2. Find all your contributions with the My contributions link in the toolbox on the left hand side, e.g.

http://www.organicdesign.co.nz/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Zenovia

--Sven 16:00, 23 Mar 2007 (NZST)

I was looking on peerix. so do you want those articles to be on peerix instead of here? --Nad 16:09, 23 Mar 2007 (NZST)

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"The estimated value of http://www.organicdesign.co.nz is: $5,566" http://www.dnscoop.com/ --Phalseid 11:35, 23 Mar 2007 (NZST)

Thats interesting, the estimated value of http://www.dnscoop.com/ is $6,250 --Sven 11:55, 23 Mar 2007 (NZST)

Wikipedia's worth us$1.3billion - same as google --Nad 12:21, 23 Mar 2007 (NZST)

Is that all? Wikichat.org is worth $0, so there. --Firebreather 10:24, 24 Mar 2007 (NZST)

You firebreather.org domain's cracked the big hundie though! --Nad 10:40, 24 Mar 2007 (NZST)

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You home tomorrow, I can come round about 10am --Sven 21:52, 22 Mar 2007 (NZST)

...be back before 1pm but --Nad 22:37, 22 Mar 2007 (NZST)

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Yo,

what do you reacon of the images? I do not like the look currently, I think theres a problem with how they can be displayed in a table (see talk:Sven:xmlwiki-search.html). Basically the two <form> contents need to be separate which restricts the look in a

--Sven 10:53, 22 Mar 2007 (NZST)

Yeah that's much better - but I reckon make the "go" and search into icons too (like maybe and )so they can all be compact in a row and look the same --Nad 13:33, 22 Mar 2007 (NZST)

Agreed, although I suspect we will still have a problem with how they appear in the

due to the use of two <forms> which seems to force a newline in there. --Sven 13:51, 22 Mar 2007 (NZST)

+Sandbox

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Where's my list of vintage stock gone on peerix?

it's there at Peerix:Vintage Stock - you didn't put it in the zenovia category by adding a [[Category:Zenovia]] link. If you don't categorise them they won't have any security on them either. --Nad 14:05, 21 Mar 2007 (NZST)

Sorry for being a pain but I still can't see my lists there is only a Auckland link when I look? I feel like my stuff needs some housework?

There's a large list of places in Peerix:Zenovia/Auckland the link was just to "auckland" without "zenovia/" so now it links to the list of places in auckland properly. Is that the list you mean?

Yes but also there were also a list of places under Auckland around NZ?

--Nad 16:04, 21 Mar 2007 (NZST)

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Can you make my Personal catorgery on the peerix too please?

Done - I've made the personal article on here into a category too --Nad 17:16, 20 Mar 2007 (NZST)

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Can you please change my peerix construction links to articles.....thanks! Zen ;-)

Yip, just keep editing them how they are for now and I'll change their names and links soon, just real busy at the mo. Should I also change the "fashion" name to "construction" since it's a bit confusing having the link use a different word than the article name? --Nad 16:37, 16 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

yeah that would be good....also some of my links for garments not made yet and # in construction have gone? I also would like these under construction/autumn winter 2007. Ta

I've already added those serialz, I'll move to autumn cat soon ;-)

Cool...I'm not sure how I add extra articles into the catorgery construction though, as I have more patterns to add?

Just create the article by typing it into the address bar at the top, or into the search box on the left, then edit as usual --Nad 11:23, 19 Mar 2007 (NZST)

Fk It, it doen't show in the catergory when I do this?

Don't stress, you need to add a link to the category in the page you've made for it to go in that category. --Nad 13:43, 19 Mar 2007 (NZST)

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Yo, I've been trying to extend the length of the input text box in Xmlwiki-search.html (wikipedia's appears to be a bit wider), but cannot seem to make it larger. Any ideas? --Sven 15:12, 16 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

It's probly done with css classes (too busy currently to check it out) - I actually had it linking to pedia and google etc already, but Rob wanted ite removed cos too ugly... --Nad 16:15, 16 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

Found it, thought it might be that myself. Made a test php script called StripNewlines.php to remove newlines and whitespace serverside, took me ages as I went about it all wrong :( --Sven 16:36, 16 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

It's working but it looks like shit tho - you'll have to make the buttons cute or something! --Nad 16:50, 16 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

its only a hack to get it looking a bit better, personally I would like images for buttons, colorized Google etc --Sven 18:21, 16 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

What about using their icons? --Nad 19:15, 16 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

Yeah? Prob easiest to grab. Suggest doing any development on my version Sven:xmlwiki-search.html in the Sandbox --Sven 08:01, 17 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

You always gotta do things the hard way - why not just grab the pedia and google icons directly off a browser screenshot instead of finding logo's and resizing etc - maybe rip off firefox's "go" and search icons too.... --Nad 10:09, 17 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

The 'G' logo was the only one I searched for, grabbed the others directly off the sites, but havent het done any screenshots. downloading firefox now to grab the go and search buttons (good idea) --Sven 15:40, 17 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

Heres some rough options just for ideas

Personally i like this one . I will take some screenshots definately easiest --Sven 15:56, 17 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

Yeah I'm into those rack mounted systems too ;-) --Nad 16:15, 17 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

--Sven 15:56, 17 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

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I love the Wikichat.png you created. I presume that it is intended for the WikiChat site logo? Well...um... I already uploaded it to the site :) ...

Yip, I added a smiley I found on google to replace the mediawiki flower in their logo :-) I would have added it myself, but you didn't add the localsettings hack so I can change the config from the wiki... --Nad 15:46, 15 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

So the LocalSettings.php hack is working now, but the page isn't secure. I put in the security extension as you described here Exensions but it doesn't seem to be working. Unfortunately, I've only got limited access to the net at the moment because I'm at the airport, but I figure I've got to sort this one out so the whole site is open to the wind. I tried uncommenting the security thing on LocalSettings.php i.e. {{#security:*|sysop}}, but no protection added because I get this parse error in index.php ... Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /home/firebrea/wikichat/index.php(19) : eval()'d code on line 69
... which I think comes from the eval line, i.e:-

## hack to allow LocalSettings.php to be edited from the LocalSettings.php article on the wiki

$tmp = new Article( Title::newFromText('LocalSettings.php') );

eval('?'.'>'.$tmp->getContent().'<'.'?');

so that means the parse error is coming from the LocalSettings.php article... and that caused by me uncommenting the security magic words, which means the security extension isn't working. I have the right settings in the LocalSettings.php file though, so there must be something missing to enable the extension I think.

Any ideas? I'm currently reading the SimpleSecurity stuff on MediaWiki to try and figure it out. Firebreather 13:19, 16 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

Also, the protect article action provided by MediaWiki doesn't seem to be actually applying any protection since I can edit LocalSettings when I'm not logged in, but the protection is set to sysop.

• You can tell the security isn't working because on pages with security a padlock and message shows up (except for localsettings page since that's all greek since no syntax-rendering).
• The localsettings hack is working fine because we can update the logo and other config changes so lets just forget that article for now and test the security in a non-mangled page like Sandbox or something. Maybe try removing tree and only including security first since thats most important. perhaps the permissions aren't set right on the SimpleSecurity.php file in extensions? Try replacing the SimpleSecurity.php code again since some changes have been made recently?

It's hard to tell without being able to take a look - maybe you should get a less crippled host like http://www.vpslink.com/ which can give you a dedicated VPS starting at us$8/month... --Nad 14:12, 16 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

I tried the protect stuff on the Sandbox page and its definitely not working..can't shell in because I've only got http access at the airport.. got to jump on the plane now. Firebreather 14:42, 16 Mar 2007 (NZDT)

quick thought... is SimpleSecurity not working because I haven't installed the ParserFunctions extension?

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In Zenovia/Business/Construction on the peerix can you show me how to link back my links to the contruction list and the construction list back to Zenovia/Business? Ta ;-) --Zenovia (NZST)

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Hey I'm still not permitted? have you looked at my changes recently? Zenovia.

yes I got your message and also responded to it? It is logged in as Zenovia and I still can't get access?

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Expandable left menu

Hi Nad, could you let me know how can I install expendable left menu - similar to the one on this side? You can also answer on my (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Aretai | Mediawiki talk pages), thx in advance.

Hi Aretai, I haven't made an extension for the expandable sideBar, but its quite simple to replicate by looking at the code in OrganicDesign:Wikitext-skin.php. There's a Javascript function added to the head scripts, and a link to call it added to the action links. --Nad 12:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Your wiki skin differs a little bit from MonoBook. Do you think it's possible to have such menu in MonoBook as well. If yes what needs to be changed? Could you give me the contact to the user who has modified your skin? As I'd be also interested in some other details (Sitemap), flash recent changes, etc, Thx in advance. --Aretai

I do all the MediaWiki code here, yep it can be added to monobook quite easily, I added info to your MW talk --Nad 20:18, 6 Mar 2007 (NZST)

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Hi Aran, Are you around for a visit? Just give me a bell if you are --Schwaney 02:58, 4 Mar 2007 (NZST)

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yeah, me 'neither before i started trying on different world views. its a pitty that, as "theosis" (enlightenment, whatever) is IMHO the whole point of christianity, or humanity, in fact. weird thing is, if i hadn't fallen into this orthodox crackery prior too/about the same time i became involved in the project, i would have blown the project off as "hippy buddhist new age nonsense". I AM THAT. what more can i say? --Phalseid 00:39, 1 Mar 2007 (NZST)

Yeah I know what you mean, that's why there's hardly anyone here! but what can ya do - there's no point trying to hide the spiritual aspect, and as the code gets developed more people will use it and learn the principles. --Nad 01:14, 1 Mar 2007 (NZST)