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== Implexant ==
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==Exploring Wiki==
Nad,
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The company I'm working for would be interested in hiring you to modify your Simply Security plugin to meet our needs. Please [mailto:chrisj@precisionestimating.com contact me]. --[[User:Implexant|Implexant]] 11:53, 11 July 2007 (NZST)
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Hey Aran,  
: Nad, Still haven't heard from you yet. I did reply to your email with specifications. Let me know! --[[User:Implexant|Implexant]] 08:10, 14 July 2007 (NZST)
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::I sent the following message a few days ago,
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is this the place where you make contact with other users then? 
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I plan on adding an #ifgroup parser-function for testing if a user belongs
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Ahhh, Bach. --[[User:The Duncan|The Duncan]] 06:20, 6 September 2010 (NZST)
to a group at some stage because that requirement keeps cropping up. It's
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only a small job of under an hour, a small donation on our paypal form on
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organicdesign would be much appreciated and would allow me to make it high
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== Mediawiki programming help ==
priority.
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Dear Nad,
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I have been taking a look at your work and you seem to have an impressive handle on mediawiki programming. I am working on a corporate project and we are looking for help with user interface/skinning and mediawiki extensions. We have a project deadline to meet over the next 6 weeks. If you would be interested and available for payable contract work, please contact me at organicdesign@jenandi.com
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Kind Regards,
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Andi
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== Templates and passing vars==
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Nad, trying to get the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Google_Maps google map] extension to work with vars in a template, such that:
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<pre>{{Test
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|FULL_NAME = Ashfield
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|FULL_NAME_ND = Ashfield
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|LAT = -33.8833333
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|LONG = 151.1166667
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}}
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<googlemap width="400" height="300" zoom="16" type="hybrid" controls="medium">
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{{{LON}}},{{{LAT}}}, {{{FULL_NAME}}}
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</googlemap>
 
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== Chat extension reorganised ==
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would work. It appears to be a problem:
They've been doing some reorganizing of extensions on mediawiki and [[mw:Extension:Chat]] isn't showing up on the mediawiki Category:Extensions page any more. I have no I why as its in the category. Any ideas?
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2257
--[[User:Firebreather|Firebreather]] 14:20, 12 July 2007 (NZST)
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::and this appears to be somebody's solution?? http://blog.w-nz.com/archives/2005/08/23/using-template-variables-in-extension-tags-with-mediawiki/
:Ok, totally weird, its back again.
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what are your 2 cents? --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 06:39, 3 April 2008 (NZST)
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:I think installing an extension to generically process all variables in tags is a bit extreme, why not just hack your google maps extension in the tag function, or do an official patch on it which allows it to process the variables, eg
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<php>$text = $parser->replaceTemplateVariables($text);</php>
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:You could make it do it based on a global such as ''$egGoogleMapsReplaceVariables'' --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 09:09, 3 April 2008 (NZST)
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== Treeview 5 ==
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Yo,
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Ive just put a suggestion up for [http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension_talk%3ATree_view&diff=178118&oldid=177287 this] post. I suggest we may need to convert windows backslashes to forward slashes in extensions if this is a continuing problem --[[User:Sven|Sven]] 13:05, 3 April 2008 (NZST)
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== [[Extension:Treeview5.php]] ==
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That fix for windows/unix paths was unbelievably obvious, why didn't I think of it... --[[User:Sven|Sven]] 14:18, 15 April 2008 (NZST)
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:Yea, that's what I was meaning about it only being an issue for the regex operating on the backslashes, not with the backslashes themselves. I only just got round to reading the treeview talk page and checking it out. You need four backslashes though because the regex expects it to be doubled so its not treated as escaping the following square bracket, and each of those two need to be escaped themselves since they're inside PHP quotes. --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 14:57, 15 April 2008 (NZST)
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== Simplesecurity glitch? ==
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Aran, on my user page, which I want to start using a bit more again, there is a security setting and I can't figure out where that has been created. "Every action requires the user to be Milan". It was inheriting from '''cat:Milan/XMLWiki user pages''' and had security on the user page as well but I removed both settings and it's still locked down. Can you check it out please when you have minute? Cheers --[[User:Milan|Milan]] 11:04, 27 April 2008 (NZST)
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:Not a glitch, its getting it from Milan/Tree which must be transcluded onto the user page. You could remove the security from the tree page or not transclude it - but then I just thought, wrapping it in noinclude's should work I'll do it now and see. --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 12:20, 27 April 2008 (NZST)
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::Thanks, that looks to be working fine. I'm getting a little rusty on transclusion stuff it seems :-/--[[User:Milan|Milan]] 14:47, 27 April 2008 (NZST)
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:::The templates an article uses are listed at the bottom of the page when editing --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 15:00, 27 April 2008 (NZST)
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==Collaboration==
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Hello Nad, I am trying to set up a number of intranets for NGO's that I am involved in and I would like to chat with about potential help/collaboration. Should we email each other or skype?
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Thanks, --[[User:Apap|Apap]] 06:40, 12 May 2008 (NZST)
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:You can email me on aran at this domain or skype id organicdesign (text only) --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 09:31, 12 May 2008 (NZST)
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== Extension:NewUserMessage ==
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Hi could you please check http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:NewUserMessage. I got a problem with my bot showing up in Recent Changes. Thanks!
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== [[Extension:CSS]] ==
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I noticed your above extension only partially works with MW1.12 after a fresh upgrade. Any idea why, or what could be blocking part of the <nowiki>{{#css}}</nowiki> from printing? As it is, only some of the specified elements are visible, as through templates used on a page, but not the page elements, as if they're being overridden by Common/Monobook.css. If you ever upgrade to 1.12 you might see what I mean. -- [[User:Sasoriza|Sasoriza]] 06:41, 1 June 2008 (NZST)
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:I have it running on 1.12 with no problems. The extension does not prevent other CSS's such as Common.css or Monobook.css from loading, it simply adds another CSS which is loaded '''before''' the main ones which means you will have to ensure that your CSS rules are more specific than the existing ones to prevent them being overridden ([http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/cascade.html#specificity this] is what I mean by "specific"). --[[User:Nad|nad]] 08:53, 1 June 2008 (NZST)
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::Also I've made a few changes to the code to allow files or in-line rules to be included, see [[MW:Extension:CSS]]. --[[User:Nad|nad]] 09:35, 1 June 2008 (NZST)
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== User Registration==
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nad, i have poked around MW and don't see any extensions to extend the fields that are collected on new account creation. any ideas? --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 10:08, 7 June 2008 (NZST)
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:I think there are hooks to extend that pretty easily, you need something done? --[[User:Nad|nad]] 14:01, 7 June 2008 (NZST)
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== MediaWiki parser ==
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thought you might be interested in this article - [[M:Migration to the new preprocessor]] which provides information about the changes to [http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classParser.html parser.php] --[[User:Sven|Sven]] 14:16, 9 June 2008 (NZST)
  
== SWF, FreeMind & YouTube on WX ==
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== [https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Main_Page Wikimedia Toolserver] ==
hey, any chance you can embed flash (e.g. google video or youtube content) into the wikia WX ssite? i saw you can do it by moding  /includes/Sanitizer.php
 
      'embed' => array( ’style’, ‘id’, ‘type’, ’src’, ‘width’, ‘height’ )
 
also may need to add embed to $htmlpairs.  thanks --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 00:39, 19 July 2007 (NZST)
 
:I'm not sure about that setting, but modding includes is a no no, whatever needs doing, it should be able to be done from LocalSettings.php --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 09:40, 19 July 2007 (NZST)
 
::sounds good, just would like to be able to embed flash objects again....--[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 06:38, 20 July 2007 (NZST)
 
::could you also add this quasi-extension to allow mindmaps from freemind?  I have found it very useful, and would like it on WX and OD to work with sven on the WX business plan. [http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Embedded_Mind_Maps?#How_to_download_the_Freemind_Extension_for_MediaWiki Freemind howto]
 
:::I've got a lot of stuff I need to get done today but I'll check it out as soon as I can --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 09:40, 19 July 2007 (NZST)
 
  
== Using SimpleForms with DPL ==
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Check out your edits on wikimedia projects e.g. [http://toolserver.org/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=Nad&dbname=enwiki_p Nad on 'pedia].
Hi Nad,
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We need to check out useful tools and ideas from this, some documentation available [[Meta:Toolserver|here]] and [https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Main_Page here]. --[[User:Sven|Sven]] 11:42, 11 June 2008 (NZST)
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:Test to see what the edit summary looks like --[[User:Sven|Sven]] 12:59, 11 June 2008 (NZST)
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::Yea I'd really like to tie bots and scraping (like that svn-commits chart or oil-price monitor etc) in to our workflow system so we can define streams of process-driven content similar to the toolserver idea. --[[User:Nad|nad]] 16:30, 11 June 2008 (NZST)
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== Wiki.pl ==
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Yo,
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Ive successfully added a wikiDelete method, it may need a bit of work around capturing the correct $err message if a user does not have rights to access the page. The restore method is almost there but unfortunately I am working off line mostly this weekend if you see something obvious I am doing wrong. You can specify a specific revision, or all revisions to restore, will get the latest revision restoring first.
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I also managed in the process of testing to submit incorrect token content which has stuffed up the local instance of the database when restoring one particular article, so I may have found a mediaWiki bug in 1.12.0 but need to document further. I want to create a test script which can do a pile of test actions so we can loop it through a set of wiki versions to test wiki.pl on. Here is the error message I managed to create;
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<source lang="mysql">
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Database error manually identified when attempting restore
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Database error
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A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
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    (SQL query hidden)
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from within function "Revision::insertOn". MySQL returned error "1062: Duplicate entry '12' for key 2 (localhost)".
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</source>
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I think at the time I submitted only two name/value hidden fields <code>my %form = (wpEditToken => $1, target => $title,</code>. Anyway, I want to add a couple of other functions to upload/delete/restore files. The file restoration function may be covered by the generic wikiRestore function.--[[User:Sven|Sven]] 10:49, 15 June 2008 (NZST)
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:That's pretty heinous if you can construct a query that can stuff the db. Is it fixed by deleting the article again? --[[User:Nad|nad]] 12:39, 15 June 2008 (NZST)
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:: Just for the article [[Sandbox]] on my localhost is the restore stuffed, and only when I try to restore '''all''' revisions, restoring the latest revision is fine. However when I created the problem I had posted fields that were incorrect, so I think it is likely to be a MediaWiki bug that I found, hopefully if I have time I can trace and document it. I still havent got the restore functionality going yet. --[[User:Sven|Sven]] 13:06, 15 June 2008 (NZST)
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== Extension:Marketresearch‎ ==
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[[Extension:Marketresearch‎]] and talk. --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 05:59, 11 July 2008 (NZST)
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== bug in csv2wiki ==
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see http://www.organicdesign.co.nz/Talk:Csv2wiki.pl#bug --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 08:35, 12 July 2008 (NZST)
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== Wiki.pl Stability ==
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Yo,
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I've made [http://www.organicdesign.co.nz/wiki/index.php?title=Wiki.pl&diff=89604&oldid=89356 changes] to [[Wiki.pl]] to try to make the WikiEdit function a bit more stable. The issue has been the large conditional regex attempting to grab all relevant hidden key/value pairs on about line 114. As the interface changes subtly the regex occasionally fails. The modified approach just searches for the wpEDitToken key;
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<source lang="php">
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if ($response->is_success and (
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$response->content =~ m|<input type='hidden' value="(.+?)" name="wpEditToken" />|g
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)) {
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</source>
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then (inefficiently) tests and saves the other wanted keys. It has not been tested across multiple MW versions yet but should be much more stable. --[[User:Sven|Sven]] 08:43, 19 December 2008 (NZDT)
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:Cool thanks ;-) --[[User:Nad|nad]] 08:44, 19 December 2008 (NZDT)
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== MindMap ==
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nad, could you please 1) add the freemind mind map to tmp.peerix.org, and 2) tell me why it is not working any longer on wx?  thx! --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 00:39, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)
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:I don't know why thats not working, I'll have another look later --[[User:Nad|nad]] 09:17, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)
  
I tried to follow your suggestion and created a GUI for DPL using SimpleForms. Have a look at [http://semeb.com/dpldemo/DPL]. I noticed some problems when I tried to use a wikitable within the body of a #form to arrange the fields in nicer way. Can you help? The preferred way would be to create a copy of [http://semeb.com/dpldemo/DPL:Catlist] which demonstrates how to do it correctly. Or ist there a known bug which prevents the use of tables? I ran into strange layouts with double quotes at various places.
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::here is why it is not working....same on tmp...http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:FreeMind#.C2.BBFlash_plugin_or_Javascript_are_turned_off._Activate_both_and_reload_to_view_the_mindmap.C2.AB
  
Second, I observed that the standard edit form of the dpldemo wiki is now cluttered with a row of empty boxes. As this appeared right after the installation of SimpleForms and the moo lib, the reason must come from there. Is there a way to get rid of them again?
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== MindMap II==
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please add this as well http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MindMeister I think this will satisfy my Red Eye needs for now... --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 03:28, 3 January 2009 (NZDT)
  
Third, I could not get the Ajax calls working. It simply happens nothing althoug the path setting to the lib (I placed it under /dpldemo/javascript) should be set correctly in LocalSettings.php. Is there a  debug switch or a simple test?
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== where to put stuff ==
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i want to put up info on the platform regarding intentional community. should it go here or on tmp?  im not clear as to "why the difference", i guess --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 00:41, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)
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::an example is 1) the MW training material i am working with milan on and 2) this community mindmap governance issue. --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 00:43, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)
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:::I'm not sure if these things belong in platform (check [[Documentation]] for a brief description of what role each document should be playing). Basically everything goes on OD except things which need to be kept completely private such as the coffee projects. The training material probably should be going into [[MediaWiki workshop]] or its talk. --[[User:Nad|nad]] 09:22, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)
  
Thanks, Gero
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== Project red eye ==
:I've had trouble with tables when trasncluded too, <s>I think maybe you should change the pipes to <nowiki>{{!}}</nowiki> like on mediawiki and wikipedia where [[Template:!]] is just a pipe character - or</s>  currently html table syntax is required, I don't quite know how to change that currently. I don't have a clue how it might be stuffing up the edit page - maybe its conflicting with another extension...?
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nad: im hoping you have some down time waiting for decaf stuff, please check out http://tmp.peerix.org/Red_Eye and let me know $/clarification. thx --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 00:49, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)
:The Ajax itself is working fine, I've added the [[Ajax links example]] and [[Ajax form example]] to my use page on [[DPL:User:Nad]] and most of it is working but not quite (example 3 of ajax links doesn't work). I'll definately be keen to help sort this out though because I love DPL and would like SimpleForms to work nicely with it. --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 09:32, 27 July 2007 (NZST)
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:I'll need a lot of clarification for this one, some mockups would be good... I can't really know $ until I know exactly what needs to be done, but off the top of my head it looks difficult, probably $500-$1000 --[[User:Nad|nad]] 09:24, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)
::I found a problem [http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?content=foobar&action=render this URL] should be sending no-cache headers, but isn't. A recent upgrade of the software fixed the problem on my server, but you're running the latest version which includes the nocache code... I'll have to think about why it's not sending them...? --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 14:26, 27 July 2007 (NZST)
 
  
:::Thanks for your effort! Ajax is not really the problem because the DPL GUI currently uses a normal forms 'action'. But it was obviously mootools that cluttered the edit dialogue with icons and made loading the editor SLOW, so I disabled Ajax for the moment. Nevertheless (while Ajax was still on) I could find a small bug in the page you had created: It used "/wiki/index.php" instead of "/dpldemo/index.php".
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forget this for now...see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MindMeister above.. --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 03:29, 3 January 2009 (NZDT)
:::What would be helpful is (a) checkboxes, (b) radiobuttons and (c) being able to use tables for formatting...
 
:::I will be on holiday for two weeks now, so there is no hurry.
 
:::[[User:Algorithmix|Algorithmix]] 21:47, 27 July 2007 (NZST)
 
::::You can do checkboxes and all other normal form elements, see [[SimpleForms cheatsheet]] and tables with html syntax. I'll have a look at the path problem soon. Have a good holiday ;-) --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 23:43, 27 July 2007 (NZST)
 
  
== Livelets ==
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==widgets on demo==
Aran- seems that wikilets are not working on WX? what is the best way to compare data side by side, do you think? --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 18:51, 10 August 2007 (NZST)
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aran, plese create and set Folder permissions /extensions/Widgets/compiled_templates/ folder should be made writable by web server (this is where Smarty stores pre-compiled template.) please verify by checking http://demo.organicdesign.co.nz/Google_Calendar (scroll to bottom) thx! --[[User:Phalseid|phalseid]] 13:44, 9 February 2009 (NZDT)
:You mean livelets? I'd forgotten to include mootools which it uses for ajax - fixed now. I don't know why you need those lists to be transcluded live though, just a normal transclude would probably be fine... --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 19:47, 10 August 2007 (NZST)
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:But I thought you had agreed that Milan was now developing the demo, is he planning on implementing these widgets as part of his presentation? does he know this? what are you planning here? --[[User:Nad|nad]] 20:09, 9 February 2009 (NZDT)
::thanks! needed it live because andrew and i might be working on it simultaneously to figure out how to port stuff over to vtiger. about the transclude, im confused about the syntax...it seems to want the ":" after the "{{"...is that normal behavior? not how it works on default MW, as far as i could see... --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 01:29, 11 August 2007 (NZST)
 
::::Livelets are not live, no work has been done on livelets as I've had to focus only on paid work, they are still only working as a secondary request after page load but do not update when content is changed. They use colon because it's a parser function, not a template. --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 09:32, 11 August 2007 (NZST)
 
:::and why did you/we change to conversations to be at the bottom instead of top...trying to be compliant there too, eh? ;) i think it is worth a news item.... --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 01:31, 11 August 2007 (NZST)
 
::::I started putting talk items at the bottom separated by headings to start conforming to same way as mediawiki/wikipedia, but it doesn't really matter. --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 09:32, 11 August 2007 (NZST)
 
  
== Political wiki project ==
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== Extension:NukeDPL.php ==
http://www.wikiexpert.com/Political_wikis
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Hi Nad, your new version of this extension has overwritten a couple of things I had added to it:
--[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 08:49, 12 August 2007 (NZST)
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*a couple of bug fixes (two minor ones, corrected with a replace, and one major: the list of results was always showing one less result than the total returned by the DPL query), and
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*a text suggestion for the query window (redirects = exclude | include| only)
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Here[http://www.organicdesign.co.nz/wiki/index.php?title=Extension%3ANukeDPL.php&diff=91586&oldid=85145] you can check the differences I introduced. As I'm not sure if you left them out on purpose, I'd like to wait for a confirmation from you; feel free to reintroduce them if you agree. Your extension is being used at CPDL.org, that has a lot of titles with accented characters, that's why these bugs could be discovered. Needless to say how much we appreciate this extension, thanks a lot for it. [[User:Capmo|Capmo]] 22:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
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:Sorry about that, not sure how your str_replace fix works, but I'll take your word for it! re-implemented it just now, thanks ;-) --[[User:Nad|nad]] 02:03, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
  
== Templates to check out ==
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== Integration ==
Check this [[W:User:GrooveDog|user page]] out. He has some nice simple templates similar to ours. --[[User:Sven|Sven]] 09:06, 12 September 2007 (NZST)
 
  
== Next 10 item link ==
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Hi Nad,
Looking through the offset 10-20 items of the [[News]] article, I noticed some funny rendered output in [http://organicdesign.co.nz/wiki/index.php?title=News&offset=10 News 10-20]. Any ideas what it is? --[[User:Sven|Sven]] 14:01, 13 September 2007 (NZST)
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I saw your [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Recent_changes Recent Changes extension]. I agree that fragmentation is a big problem in the wikisphere. Recently I created the (experimental) [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RPED RPED extension] to help address that very concern. Let me know if you want to collaborate on other projects for data exchange among wikis. Regards, [[User:Tisane|Tisane]] 09:09, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah that's the price we pay for removing the expensive regexp query and replacing it with a ''uses=news''. Since some other non-news articles use news they end up in there too. --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 14:07, 13 September 2007 (NZST)
 
  
== SimpleForms Bug ==
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== SimpleSecurity ==
Looks like there is a small bug on line 219 of [[Extension:SimpleForms.php]], <code>$argv['onClick'] .= "f = $('{$this->id}');$template</code>, the $template shouldn't be there. --[[User:Sven|Sven]] 11:33, 24 September 2007 (NZST)
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I just downloaded the SimpleSecurity svn. And it's not handling Images, as in it's allowing them to be put into pages. It's also allowing their thumbnails to show up in searches. [[User:Smile Lee|Smile Lee]] 13:28, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
  
== Misc ==
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== Chloe in the snow ==
I'll be on 5:30 ferry --[[User:Rob|Rob]] 16:41, 26 September 2007 (NZST)
 
:hokitoki see you 'bout 5:40 ;-)
 
  
== Hosting ==
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/rebba/4386885783/in/set-72157604564573252/
aran, just fyi: http://www.wikiexpert.com/Hosting  im looking at setting up a commercial level hosting platform here in colorado that will be powered by a new windfarm that is going in a few miles from here.
 
i would love to have your technical input into our discussion.  Thanks! --[[User:Phalseid|Phalseid]] 05:17, 27 September 2007 (NZST)
 
  
== Trees and tranclusion ==
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==AGI Manhattan==
As trees <nowiki> {{#tree: openlevels=1| {{: A BULLET LIST}} }}</nowiki> are made up of bullet lists, a good idea would to manage the bullet lists themselves in categorized articles then embed the transcluded bullet lists into the any required tree code. This way the lists can be used as ''bullet lists'', or as ''trees'' in articles --[[User:Sven|Sven]] 12:09, 27 September 2007 (NZST)
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I read the whole thing today (could not watch the videos due to lack of BW)... holy crap! But did you see this? [http://ignoranceisfutile.wordpress.com/2010/07/23/using-automated-untelligence-to-fight-artificial-intelligence Automated Unintelligence] I love it! --[[User:Infomaniac|Infomaniac]] 13:45, 13 August 2010 (NZST)
:We used to use [[:Category:Lists]] for articles which were pure bullet list content. This is a good organisational idea, but I don't think it should necessarily apply to all trees, just ones where the list may be used for other things. Or maybe just extract and transclude at the time when we want to reuse tree content in list content (or in another tree). --[[User:Nad|Nad]] 13:22, 27 September 2007 (NZST)
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== mail problems ==
Looks like the dns may still need to update:
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Having a bit of trouble connecting to my od mail account in the last few days. On further investigation this looks a bit fishy:
 
<pre>
 
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>host organicdesign.co.nz
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Rob-MacBookPro:~ rcar004$ host organicdesign.co.nz
organicdesign.co.nz has address 202.89.43.124
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organicdesign.co.nz has address 69.64.87.188
organicdesign.co.nz mail is handled by 5 smtp.organicdesign.co.nz.
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organicdesign.co.nz mail is handled by 5 mail.organicdesign.co.nz.
organicdesign.co.nz mail is handled by 10 smtp2.organicdesign.co.nz.
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Rob-MacBookPro:~ rcar004$ ping mail.organicdesign.co.nz
>host www.organicdesign.co.nz
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PING mail.organicdesign.co.nz (69.64.87.188): 56 data bytes
www.organicdesign.co.nz has address 209.40.202.39
+
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
 +
64 bytes from 69.64.87.188: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=326.814 ms
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64 bytes from 69.64.87.188: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=247.202 ms
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Request timeout for icmp_seq 3
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Request timeout for icmp_seq 4
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64 bytes from 69.64.87.188: icmp_seq=5 ttl=50 time=318.341 ms
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Request timeout for icmp_seq 6
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Request timeout for icmp_seq 7
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64 bytes from 69.64.87.188: icmp_seq=8 ttl=50 time=285.733 ms
 +
64 bytes from 69.64.87.188: icmp_seq=9 ttl=50 time=308.877 ms
 +
64 bytes from 69.64.87.188: icmp_seq=10 ttl=50 time=332.087 ms
 +
^C
 +
--- mail.organicdesign.co.nz ping statistics ---
 +
11 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 45.5% packet loss
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round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 247.202/303.176/332.087/29.139 ms
 
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</pre>
Also just sent an email that bounced. May just need time to propogate. --[[User:Rob|Rob]] 14:28, 27 September 2007 (NZST)
+
Dropped packets and the server doesn't seem to be accepting my password (same as od unix login 'rob').
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--[[User:Rob|Rob]] 00:52, 17 October 2010 (PDT)
 +
:We've done a major server move, see [[News]], I didn't realise you were using OD mail, I'll set up your account now, but you'll need to either email/skype/IRC/TXT your pwd, or email me your pub RSA key so you can shell in yourself and set your pwd. --[[User:Nad|nad]] 01:04, 17 October 2010 (PDT)
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 +
== Selenium extension ==
 +
 
 +
Hi Nad,
 +
 
 +
Thanks for the interesting link. I'm specifically interested in running Selenium tests from the wiki, i.e. using the wiki as a selenium test archive.
 +
 
 +
Is it likely that the Selenium Extension still works?
 +
 
 +
 
 +
Cheers,
 +
--[[User:Dan Bolser|Dan Bolser]] 01:10, 4 April 2011 (PDT)
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:The last state it was in it was working, we had some test tests running in this site, but the extension and framework are no longer installed. --[[User:Nad|nad]] 19:50, 7 April 2011 (PDT)
 +
 
 +
== Private work for adeft ==
 +
 
 +
#why is  http://www.sebokwiki075.org/wiki/and http://www.sebokwiki075.org/wiki/ so slow? Extensions? DPL? Caching? Server?
 +
#how to get http://www.sebokwiki075.org/dev/index.php?title=Mediawiki:NavTree to show up on the left hand navigation. I thought I did it right.  Once we get that, need to figure out some basic style stuff, and get it working on /wiki (same domain as above)
 +
#backup script- TBD
 +
#update star menu with transparency layers
 +
#I added http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BreadCrumbs to /dev above.  They want the navigation to appear ABOVE the article title. I screwed around with http://www.sebokwiki075.org/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ACommon.css&action=historysubmit&diff=28551&oldid=28545
 +
and got it to look right, but when you edit with the above, it screws up the tabs and looks shitty. i read the talk page on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BreadCrumbs and it was talking about hooks, so i bailed. Basically, what would it take to get this extension to work in Vector with the breadcrumbs showing up ABOVE the title and not overwriting stuff like in
 +
 
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--[[User:Phalseid|phalseid]] 09:13, 23 February 2012 (PST)

Latest revision as of 18:11, 22 May 2015

Exploring Wiki

Hey Aran,

is this the place where you make contact with other users then?

Ahhh, Bach. --The Duncan 06:20, 6 September 2010 (NZST)


Mediawiki programming help

Dear Nad, I have been taking a look at your work and you seem to have an impressive handle on mediawiki programming. I am working on a corporate project and we are looking for help with user interface/skinning and mediawiki extensions. We have a project deadline to meet over the next 6 weeks. If you would be interested and available for payable contract work, please contact me at organicdesign@jenandi.com

Kind Regards, Andi

Templates and passing vars

Nad, trying to get the google map extension to work with vars in a template, such that:

{{Test
|FULL_NAME = Ashfield
|FULL_NAME_ND = Ashfield
|LAT = -33.8833333
|LONG = 151.1166667
}}

<googlemap width="400" height="300" zoom="16" type="hybrid" controls="medium">
{{{LON}}},{{{LAT}}}, {{{FULL_NAME}}}
</googlemap>

would work. It appears to be a problem: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2257

and this appears to be somebody's solution?? http://blog.w-nz.com/archives/2005/08/23/using-template-variables-in-extension-tags-with-mediawiki/

what are your 2 cents? --Phalseid 06:39, 3 April 2008 (NZST)

I think installing an extension to generically process all variables in tags is a bit extreme, why not just hack your google maps extension in the tag function, or do an official patch on it which allows it to process the variables, eg

<php>$text = $parser->replaceTemplateVariables($text);</php>

You could make it do it based on a global such as $egGoogleMapsReplaceVariables --Nad 09:09, 3 April 2008 (NZST)

Treeview 5

Yo, Ive just put a suggestion up for this post. I suggest we may need to convert windows backslashes to forward slashes in extensions if this is a continuing problem --Sven 13:05, 3 April 2008 (NZST)

Extension:Treeview5.php

That fix for windows/unix paths was unbelievably obvious, why didn't I think of it... --Sven 14:18, 15 April 2008 (NZST)

Yea, that's what I was meaning about it only being an issue for the regex operating on the backslashes, not with the backslashes themselves. I only just got round to reading the treeview talk page and checking it out. You need four backslashes though because the regex expects it to be doubled so its not treated as escaping the following square bracket, and each of those two need to be escaped themselves since they're inside PHP quotes. --Nad 14:57, 15 April 2008 (NZST)

Simplesecurity glitch?

Aran, on my user page, which I want to start using a bit more again, there is a security setting and I can't figure out where that has been created. "Every action requires the user to be Milan". It was inheriting from cat:Milan/XMLWiki user pages and had security on the user page as well but I removed both settings and it's still locked down. Can you check it out please when you have minute? Cheers --Milan 11:04, 27 April 2008 (NZST)

Not a glitch, its getting it from Milan/Tree which must be transcluded onto the user page. You could remove the security from the tree page or not transclude it - but then I just thought, wrapping it in noinclude's should work I'll do it now and see. --Nad 12:20, 27 April 2008 (NZST)
Thanks, that looks to be working fine. I'm getting a little rusty on transclusion stuff it seems :-/--Milan 14:47, 27 April 2008 (NZST)
The templates an article uses are listed at the bottom of the page when editing --Nad 15:00, 27 April 2008 (NZST)

Collaboration

Hello Nad, I am trying to set up a number of intranets for NGO's that I am involved in and I would like to chat with about potential help/collaboration. Should we email each other or skype? Thanks, --Apap 06:40, 12 May 2008 (NZST)

You can email me on aran at this domain or skype id organicdesign (text only) --Nad 09:31, 12 May 2008 (NZST)

Extension:NewUserMessage

Hi could you please check http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:NewUserMessage. I got a problem with my bot showing up in Recent Changes. Thanks!

Extension:CSS

I noticed your above extension only partially works with MW1.12 after a fresh upgrade. Any idea why, or what could be blocking part of the {{#css}} from printing? As it is, only some of the specified elements are visible, as through templates used on a page, but not the page elements, as if they're being overridden by Common/Monobook.css. If you ever upgrade to 1.12 you might see what I mean. -- Sasoriza 06:41, 1 June 2008 (NZST)

I have it running on 1.12 with no problems. The extension does not prevent other CSS's such as Common.css or Monobook.css from loading, it simply adds another CSS which is loaded before the main ones which means you will have to ensure that your CSS rules are more specific than the existing ones to prevent them being overridden (this is what I mean by "specific"). --nad 08:53, 1 June 2008 (NZST)
Also I've made a few changes to the code to allow files or in-line rules to be included, see MW:Extension:CSS. --nad 09:35, 1 June 2008 (NZST)

User Registration

nad, i have poked around MW and don't see any extensions to extend the fields that are collected on new account creation. any ideas? --Phalseid 10:08, 7 June 2008 (NZST)

I think there are hooks to extend that pretty easily, you need something done? --nad 14:01, 7 June 2008 (NZST)

MediaWiki parser

thought you might be interested in this article - M:Migration to the new preprocessor which provides information about the changes to parser.php --Sven 14:16, 9 June 2008 (NZST)

Wikimedia Toolserver

Check out your edits on wikimedia projects e.g. Nad on 'pedia. We need to check out useful tools and ideas from this, some documentation available here and here. --Sven 11:42, 11 June 2008 (NZST)

Test to see what the edit summary looks like --Sven 12:59, 11 June 2008 (NZST)
Yea I'd really like to tie bots and scraping (like that svn-commits chart or oil-price monitor etc) in to our workflow system so we can define streams of process-driven content similar to the toolserver idea. --nad 16:30, 11 June 2008 (NZST)

Wiki.pl

Yo, Ive successfully added a wikiDelete method, it may need a bit of work around capturing the correct $err message if a user does not have rights to access the page. The restore method is almost there but unfortunately I am working off line mostly this weekend if you see something obvious I am doing wrong. You can specify a specific revision, or all revisions to restore, will get the latest revision restoring first.

I also managed in the process of testing to submit incorrect token content which has stuffed up the local instance of the database when restoring one particular article, so I may have found a mediaWiki bug in 1.12.0 but need to document further. I want to create a test script which can do a pile of test actions so we can loop it through a set of wiki versions to test wiki.pl on. Here is the error message I managed to create;

Database error manually identified when attempting restore
Database error
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

    (SQL query hidden)

from within function "Revision::insertOn". MySQL returned error "1062: Duplicate entry '12' for key 2 (localhost)".

I think at the time I submitted only two name/value hidden fields my %form = (wpEditToken => $1, target => $title,. Anyway, I want to add a couple of other functions to upload/delete/restore files. The file restoration function may be covered by the generic wikiRestore function.--Sven 10:49, 15 June 2008 (NZST)

That's pretty heinous if you can construct a query that can stuff the db. Is it fixed by deleting the article again? --nad 12:39, 15 June 2008 (NZST)
Just for the article Sandbox on my localhost is the restore stuffed, and only when I try to restore all revisions, restoring the latest revision is fine. However when I created the problem I had posted fields that were incorrect, so I think it is likely to be a MediaWiki bug that I found, hopefully if I have time I can trace and document it. I still havent got the restore functionality going yet. --Sven 13:06, 15 June 2008 (NZST)

Extension:Marketresearch‎

Extension:Marketresearch‎ and talk. --Phalseid 05:59, 11 July 2008 (NZST)

bug in csv2wiki

see http://www.organicdesign.co.nz/Talk:Csv2wiki.pl#bug --Phalseid 08:35, 12 July 2008 (NZST)

Wiki.pl Stability

Yo, I've made changes to Wiki.pl to try to make the WikiEdit function a bit more stable. The issue has been the large conditional regex attempting to grab all relevant hidden key/value pairs on about line 114. As the interface changes subtly the regex occasionally fails. The modified approach just searches for the wpEDitToken key;

if ($response->is_success and (
			$response->content =~ m|<input type='hidden' value="(.+?)" name="wpEditToken" />|g
			)) {

then (inefficiently) tests and saves the other wanted keys. It has not been tested across multiple MW versions yet but should be much more stable. --Sven 08:43, 19 December 2008 (NZDT)

Cool thanks ;-) --nad 08:44, 19 December 2008 (NZDT)

MindMap

nad, could you please 1) add the freemind mind map to tmp.peerix.org, and 2) tell me why it is not working any longer on wx? thx! --Phalseid 00:39, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)

I don't know why thats not working, I'll have another look later --nad 09:17, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)
here is why it is not working....same on tmp...http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:FreeMind#.C2.BBFlash_plugin_or_Javascript_are_turned_off._Activate_both_and_reload_to_view_the_mindmap.C2.AB

MindMap II

please add this as well http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MindMeister I think this will satisfy my Red Eye needs for now... --Phalseid 03:28, 3 January 2009 (NZDT)

where to put stuff

i want to put up info on the platform regarding intentional community. should it go here or on tmp? im not clear as to "why the difference", i guess --Phalseid 00:41, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)

an example is 1) the MW training material i am working with milan on and 2) this community mindmap governance issue. --Phalseid 00:43, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)
I'm not sure if these things belong in platform (check Documentation for a brief description of what role each document should be playing). Basically everything goes on OD except things which need to be kept completely private such as the coffee projects. The training material probably should be going into MediaWiki workshop or its talk. --nad 09:22, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)

Project red eye

nad: im hoping you have some down time waiting for decaf stuff, please check out http://tmp.peerix.org/Red_Eye and let me know $/clarification. thx --Phalseid 00:49, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)

I'll need a lot of clarification for this one, some mockups would be good... I can't really know $ until I know exactly what needs to be done, but off the top of my head it looks difficult, probably $500-$1000 --nad 09:24, 2 January 2009 (NZDT)

forget this for now...see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MindMeister above.. --Phalseid 03:29, 3 January 2009 (NZDT)

widgets on demo

aran, plese create and set Folder permissions /extensions/Widgets/compiled_templates/ folder should be made writable by web server (this is where Smarty stores pre-compiled template.) please verify by checking http://demo.organicdesign.co.nz/Google_Calendar (scroll to bottom) thx! --phalseid 13:44, 9 February 2009 (NZDT)

But I thought you had agreed that Milan was now developing the demo, is he planning on implementing these widgets as part of his presentation? does he know this? what are you planning here? --nad 20:09, 9 February 2009 (NZDT)

Extension:NukeDPL.php

Hi Nad, your new version of this extension has overwritten a couple of things I had added to it:

  • a couple of bug fixes (two minor ones, corrected with a replace, and one major: the list of results was always showing one less result than the total returned by the DPL query), and
  • a text suggestion for the query window (redirects = exclude | include| only)

Here[1] you can check the differences I introduced. As I'm not sure if you left them out on purpose, I'd like to wait for a confirmation from you; feel free to reintroduce them if you agree. Your extension is being used at CPDL.org, that has a lot of titles with accented characters, that's why these bugs could be discovered. Needless to say how much we appreciate this extension, thanks a lot for it. Capmo 22:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that, not sure how your str_replace fix works, but I'll take your word for it! re-implemented it just now, thanks ;-) --nad 02:03, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Integration

Hi Nad, I saw your Recent Changes extension. I agree that fragmentation is a big problem in the wikisphere. Recently I created the (experimental) RPED extension to help address that very concern. Let me know if you want to collaborate on other projects for data exchange among wikis. Regards, Tisane 09:09, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

SimpleSecurity

I just downloaded the SimpleSecurity svn. And it's not handling Images, as in it's allowing them to be put into pages. It's also allowing their thumbnails to show up in searches. Smile Lee 13:28, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Chloe in the snow

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rebba/4386885783/in/set-72157604564573252/

AGI Manhattan

I read the whole thing today (could not watch the videos due to lack of BW)... holy crap! But did you see this? Automated Unintelligence I love it! --Infomaniac 13:45, 13 August 2010 (NZST)

mail problems

Having a bit of trouble connecting to my od mail account in the last few days. On further investigation this looks a bit fishy:

Rob-MacBookPro:~ rcar004$ host organicdesign.co.nz
organicdesign.co.nz has address 69.64.87.188
organicdesign.co.nz mail is handled by 5 mail.organicdesign.co.nz.
Rob-MacBookPro:~ rcar004$ ping mail.organicdesign.co.nz
PING mail.organicdesign.co.nz (69.64.87.188): 56 data bytes
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
64 bytes from 69.64.87.188: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=326.814 ms
64 bytes from 69.64.87.188: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=247.202 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 3
Request timeout for icmp_seq 4
64 bytes from 69.64.87.188: icmp_seq=5 ttl=50 time=318.341 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 6
Request timeout for icmp_seq 7
64 bytes from 69.64.87.188: icmp_seq=8 ttl=50 time=285.733 ms
64 bytes from 69.64.87.188: icmp_seq=9 ttl=50 time=308.877 ms
64 bytes from 69.64.87.188: icmp_seq=10 ttl=50 time=332.087 ms
^C
--- mail.organicdesign.co.nz ping statistics ---
11 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 45.5% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 247.202/303.176/332.087/29.139 ms

Dropped packets and the server doesn't seem to be accepting my password (same as od unix login 'rob'). --Rob 00:52, 17 October 2010 (PDT)

We've done a major server move, see News, I didn't realise you were using OD mail, I'll set up your account now, but you'll need to either email/skype/IRC/TXT your pwd, or email me your pub RSA key so you can shell in yourself and set your pwd. --nad 01:04, 17 October 2010 (PDT)

Selenium extension

Hi Nad,

Thanks for the interesting link. I'm specifically interested in running Selenium tests from the wiki, i.e. using the wiki as a selenium test archive.

Is it likely that the Selenium Extension still works?


Cheers, --Dan Bolser 01:10, 4 April 2011 (PDT)

The last state it was in it was working, we had some test tests running in this site, but the extension and framework are no longer installed. --nad 19:50, 7 April 2011 (PDT)

Private work for adeft

  1. why is http://www.sebokwiki075.org/wiki/and http://www.sebokwiki075.org/wiki/ so slow? Extensions? DPL? Caching? Server?
  2. how to get http://www.sebokwiki075.org/dev/index.php?title=Mediawiki:NavTree to show up on the left hand navigation. I thought I did it right. Once we get that, need to figure out some basic style stuff, and get it working on /wiki (same domain as above)
  3. backup script- TBD
  4. update star menu with transparency layers
  5. I added http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BreadCrumbs to /dev above. They want the navigation to appear ABOVE the article title. I screwed around with http://www.sebokwiki075.org/dev/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ACommon.css&action=historysubmit&diff=28551&oldid=28545

and got it to look right, but when you edit with the above, it screws up the tabs and looks shitty. i read the talk page on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:BreadCrumbs and it was talking about hooks, so i bailed. Basically, what would it take to get this extension to work in Vector with the breadcrumbs showing up ABOVE the title and not overwriting stuff like in

--phalseid 09:13, 23 February 2012 (PST)